WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY ? - IT IS NOT SUNDAY

[3rdAngel]

The first century Christianity was Jewish. You might recall reading Romans where St. Paul makes a cause against the redemption of the Judaizers of Acts 15:1 where the old posited laws of the Jews were put ahead of Divine or its subset, natural law. Jesus Christ didn’t come to re-make the law rather He fulfilled the law, made it perfect in His own Sacrifice. He gleaned on the Sabbath and healed on the Sabbath. Christian and Jewish sects worship together, even worshiped in the Temple together, at least in the beginning from the first Pentecost [Acts 2:1] until 70 A.D. when Jerusalem fell and the city was sacked. The Jews were resentful of the early Catholic Church because of the warning given to the Christians by the Romans to ‘get out of town’. Unlike the Jews when the early Church returned from the hills, they were allowed to reclaim their property; the Jews had their property confiscated.

The Catholic Church teaches trend moved from the Sabbath to the Lords Day more so after the fall of the Temple. Even earlier St. Paul was moving away from celebrating liturgy only on the Sabbath normally taught at the Synagogue. [Cf. Colossians 2:16] As time went on, the Catholics were prohibited from celebrating the parousia, the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist within the Synagogue. Consequently, they went to the Synagogue on Saturday to celebrate the liturgy and celebrating the Lord’s Day on Monday in private homes [Acts 20:7]: when they broke bread they were celebrating the Eucharistic meal - the “Lords Day.” Over a rather a short period of time the Sacrament of the Liturgy and the Sacrament of Communion centered on that day where Jesus Christ is Present among us. By the end of the first century Catholic Churches loyal to the teachings of Rome, the office St. Peter sprang up all over the meditation.

And that’s the way it was in the 1st century Catholic Church.


JoeT

Hi Joe, nice to see someone who has studied the history of the early Chrurch. Here is an interesting confession by the Roman Catholic Church that many protestants may not know or have forgotten.

CONFESSIONS OF THE ROMANS CATHOLIC CHURCH (Short 4 mins)

Thanks for sharing Joe

God bless

 

[3rdAngel]

So? You did not make that stipulation in the opening challenge. You keep moving the goalposts by embellishing your o/p

1. WHERE DOES IT SAY IN GOD'S WORD ALONE THAT SUNDAY IS "THE LORDS DAY"?
1, Nowhere and I said why - "Sunday" Is a Pagan name given to the 1st day of the week..

Rubbish! The OP is as it should be and no goal posts have been moved at all. It is very simple SUNDAY in our use of the word represents the FIRST DAY of the week in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures. Brother are you seriously trying to say you did not know the FIRST DAY of the week represents SUNDAY in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures?

2. WHAT DAY ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD IS "THE LORDS DAY"?
2. ALL is the LORD'S, both time and materials psalm 24:1

Rubbish! God's Word does not say everyday is the SABBATH, just the same as he did not bless every day and set every day apart as a Holy day of rest that no work is to be done *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.

3. IF THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS SUNDAY IS "THE LORDS DAY" ARE WE FOLLOWING GOD'S WORD OR MAN MADE TEACHINGS AND TRADITIONS?
3. Yes, I am following the LORD 1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

There is no scripture to support your view here brother that you are following God's Word by obeying the man made teaching and tradition of "THE LORDS DAY" being SUNDAY (the first day of the week) in place of God's 4th commandment.

There is no scripture that says SUNDAY (or the first day of the week) is "THE LORDS DAY" the same as there is no scripture that says God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments has been abolished and we are not commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. No one brings glory to God by denying his Word and breaking his LAWS. You do indeed follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God and deny his Word.

May you receive his Word and be blessed.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God) and follow him. Those who do not are not His sheep.

 

[Yeshua1]

What I am does not matter. I am no one. Only a voice from the wilderness of the web who loves God's Word. I hear his voice and he is calling all who have ears to hear to come out from following man made traditions back to his Word. God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God) and follow him

You do n ot follow a false prophetess teachings do you?

 

[HankD]

Rubbish! The OP is as it should be and no goal posts have been moved at all. It is very simple SUNDAY in our use of the word represents the FIRST DAY of the week in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures. Brother are you seriously trying to say you did not know the FIRST DAY of the week represents SUNDAY in the NEW TESTAMENT scriptures?


Rubbish! God's Word does not say everyday is the SABBATH, just the same as he did not bless every day and set every day apart as a Holy day of rest that no work is to be done *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.



There is no scripture to support your view here brother that you are following God's Word by obeying the man made teaching and tradition of "THE LORDS DAY" being SUNDAY (the first day of the week) in place of God's 4th commandment.

There is no scripture that says SUNDAY (or the first day of the week) is "THE LORDS DAY" the same as there is no scripture that says God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments has been abolished and we are not commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. No one brings glory to God by denying his Word and breaking his LAWS. You do indeed follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God and deny his Word.

May you receive his Word and be blessed.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God) and follow him. Those who do not are not His sheep.

I hear His voice daily and I follow Him, worship, love and adore Him.

Every day and I rest from my own works every day - 24/7 in fact

 

[3rdAngel]

I hear His voice daily and I follow Him, worship, love and adore Him.
Every day and I rest from my own works every day - 24/7 in fact

Do you love JESUS Hank? No one loves JESUS by knowingly breaking anyone of God's Commandments *JAMES 2:9-10; JOHN 14:15. In times of ignorance God winks at but when a knowledge of the truth is come, calls all men everywhere to believe and follow his Word *ACTS 17:30-31.

Those who reject God word and continue in known unrepentant sin when God gives them a knowledge of the truth do not enter into God's Kingdom if the reject the gift of God's dear son and continue in known unrepentant sin *HEBREWS 10:26-39; ROMANS 6:23; MATTHEW 7:22-24.

SIN is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10. Those who love God do not practice sin and is why JESUS says "IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS *JOHN 14:15.

You say you love JESUS but do not keep His Commandments. I do not judge you but it is God's Word that is the light that will judge us all *JOHN 12:47-48

SO HOW CAN WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE GOD?

1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And HEREBY WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS .[4], HE THAT SAYS I KNOW HIM AND DOES NOT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.

WHO ARE GOD'S SHEEP?

JOHN 10:27 MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE (the WORD of GOD) and FOLLOW ME

REVELATION 14:12. HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THE FAITH OF JESUS

Recieve God's Word and be blessed.

 

[HankD]

Do you love JESUS Hank? No one loves JESUS by knowingly breaking anyone of God's Commandments *JAMES 2:9-10; JOHN 14:15. In times of ignorance God winks at but when a knowledge of the truth is come, calls all men everywhere to believe and follow his Word *ACTS 17:30-31. Those who reject God word and continue in known unrepentant sin when God gives them a knowledge of the truth do not enter into God's Kingdom if the reject the gift of God's dear son *HEBREWS 10:26-39; ROMANS 6:23; MATTHEW 7:22-24. SIN is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10. Those who love God do not practice sin and is why JESUS says "IF YOU LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS *JOHN 14:15.

I do keep His commandments, well not perfectly like He did.
Yes I keep His Sabbath rest. I have ceased from my own dead works.

 

[3rdAngel]

You do n ot follow a false prophetess teachings do you?

Of course not. I follow the Word of God alone. What is it in this op that is shared with you in love that is not God's Word. If I have only spoken the truth why do you not believe?

 

[Adonia]

Of course not. I follow the Word of God alone. What is it in this op that is shared with you in love that is not God's Word. If I have only spoken the truth why do you not believe?

You got what you believe by hearing from others. You did not just wake up one day and decide that Sunday worship for the Christian was in error. Somewhere, someplace, someone convinced you that they had the "truth" about such things and off you went.

 

[Adonia]

YES. Well if there were still Isis/Osiris worshipers around they might say it is divine intervention

Hah, you got it!

 

[3rdAngel]

You got what you believe by hearing from others. You did not just wake up one day and decide that Sunday worship for the Christian was in error. Somewhere, someplace, someone convinced you that they had the "truth" about such things and off you went.

I discovered these things from the Word of God, asking JESUS to be my guide and teacher and claiming God's promises *JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; JOHN 7:17; JOHN 8:31-36; HEBREWS 8:10-12; 1 JOHN 2:27. The reason others do not know God's WORD is because they seek it from others and the word of website and not from God who wants to be our teacher.

 

[3rdAngel]

I do keep His commandments, well not perfectly like He did.
Yes I keep His Sabbath rest. I have ceased from my own dead works.

God knows brother if you do or do not. I do not judge you. God's Word is our judge *JOHN 12:47-48. Your salvation is between you and God not me and you. You do not have to convince me. It is God you must convince. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgment day. How sad it would be in that day when those who had the chance to hear God's Word but chose to turn away from it in order to live a life of known unrepentant sin because they did not want to hear God's voice calling them and did not know the day of their visitation only to learn and find out too late what they have lost *MATTHEW 7:22-24

Receive God's WORD and be blessed.

 

[JoeT]

Hi Joe, nice to see someone who has studied the history of the early Chrurch. Here is an interesting confession by the Roman Catholic Church that many protestants may not know or have forgotten.

CONFESSIONS OF THE ROMANS CATHOLIC CHURCH (Short 4 mins)

Thanks for sharing Joe

God bless

And was this your point . . . ?

Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven." [Matthew 18:18]

Or were you attempting to convince me of something else?

And if Christ's ask us to follow in His Kingdom should we turn our back when she commands us to advance?

JoeT

 

[3rdAngel]

And was this your point . . . ?

Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven."
[Matthew 18:18]

Or were you to attempt to convince me of something else?

And if Christ's ask us to follow in His Kingdom should we turn back when she commands us to advance?

JoeT

Nothing Joe just supporting what you were saying in your post I was responding to.

Except for your comments on PAUL and COLOSSIANS 2:16. The has already been addressed in great detail in posts # 81; post # 84; post # 86; post # 87 and post # 88, all linked.

These linked posts above, examine COLOSSIANS 2 in detail looking at the...

1. within scripture context,
2. the within chapter context as well as
3. the origin of COLOSSIANS 2:14-17 from the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures and fulfillment in the NEW TESTAMENT.

Many people put this scripture out of context in order to support false teachings. The liked posts above show the orgin and true meaning around COLOSSIANS 2 which are in reference to the "SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the covenant. Not God's 10 commandments.

Be blessed and receive God's Word.

 

[HankD]

God knows brother if you do or do not. I do not judge you. God's Word is our judge *JOHN 12:47-48. Your salvation is between you and God not me and you. You do not have to convince me. It is God you must convince. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgment day. How sad it would be in that day when those who had the chance to hear God's Word but chose to turn away from it in order to live a life of known unrepentant sin because they did not want to hear God's voice calling them and did not know the day of their visitation only to learn and find out too late what they have lost *MATTHEW 7:22-24

Receive God's WORD and be blessed.

Yes that would be sad indeed.

 

[utilyan]

Hi Joe, nice to see someone who has studied the history of the early Chrurch. Here is an interesting confession by the Roman Catholic Church that many protestants may not know or have forgotten.

CONFESSIONS OF THE ROMANS CATHOLIC CHURCH (Short 4 mins)

Thanks for sharing Joe

God bless

This was settled years ago.

The Guy in the video is an SDA ACTOR posing as Catholic bishop. And the script is from bogus bishop that never existed.


(3ABN, Carter Report, The Priest's Confession, Part 2, Program transcript. Series code: CR, Program code: CR001105)



Here is the original version uncut. They want to make you think that an actual Cardinal stating these things.
The length people will go to demonize other people is pretty sad.

When the bluff got called 3ABN pulled the video out.

 

[3rdAngel]

This was settled years ago.

The Guy in the video is an SDA ACTOR posing as Catholic bishop. And the script is from bogus bishop that never existed.


(3ABN, Carter Report, The Priest's Confession, Part 2, Program transcript. Series code: CR, Program code: CR001105)



Here is the original version uncut. They want to make you think that an actual Cardinal stating these things.
The length people will go to demonize other people is pretty sad.

When the bluff got called 3ABN pulled the video out.

Distraction, wheather SDA or not, I do not know and it is irrelavant to the subject matter being presented. Everyone of those quotes are verifiable from Catholic resources which are quoted in the video. I have only ever seen that video on youtube to which it is still provided there for all to see. No one is demonizing anyone but presenting historical fact verified from historical archives from within the Roman Catholic Church and it is those that aer being presented in the video.

It is the system of teachings that is demonic within the Roman Catholic Church because they lead others away from God's Word, not the people that are caught up within this church system. God has his people in every Church and is calling them out wherever they may be from following the teachings and traditions of men, to follow the pure Word of God.

As it is written the hour is coming and now is that the true worshippers will worship God in Spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:23-24

May you receive God's WORD and be blessed.

 

[utilyan]

Distraction, wheather SDA or not, I do not know and it is irrelavant to the subject matter being presented. Everyone of those quotes are verifiable from Catholic resources which are quoted in the video. I have only ever seen that video on youtube to which it is still provided there for all to see. No one is demonizing anyone but presenting historical fact verified from historical archives from within the Roman Catholic Church and it is those that aer being presented in the video.

It is the system of teachings that is demonic within the Roman Catholic Church because they lead others away from God's Word, not the people that are caught up within this church system. God has his people in every Church and is calling them out wherever they may be from following the teachings and traditions of men, to follow the pure Word of God.

As it is written the hour is coming and now is that the true worshippers will worship God in Spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:23-24

May you receive God's WORD and be blessed.

Deception. Accusation. Vilifying others.

Matthew 5

14“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.


Just like we told the last self proclaimed prophet where do we sign up to learn the correct understanding of scripture?.

Its always from a self proclaimed cult leader to God. Name a single person on earth we can read up and follow to have your understanding of scripture.


Jesus says the righteous don't put a basket over their light.

 

[Salty]

Hi Joe, nice to see someone who has studied the history of the early Chrurch. Here is an interesting confession by the Roman Catholic Church that many protestants may not know or have forgotten.

You do realize that Baptists are not Protestants?

Just curious - are you 7th Day Adventists?

 

[3rdAngel]

Deception. Accusation. Vilifying others.

Matthew 5

14“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.


Just like we told the last self proclaimed prophet where do we sign up to learn the correct understanding of scripture?.

Its always from a self proclaimed cult leader to God. Name a single person on earth we can read up and follow to have your understanding of scripture.


Jesus says the righteous don't put a basket over their light.

Rubbish! All I see is you denying the truth which is verified in historical archives. This is sad for you.

 

[3rdAngel]

You do realize that Baptists are not Protestants?
Just curious - are you 7th Day Adventists?

Hi Salty, I do not classify my self as anything accept a bible beleiver who follows JESUS and loves God's Word.

I have been to different churches over the years including the SDA church which I attend occasionally. Wheather Baptist, SDA, Catholic, I believe God's Word teaches that God has his people in every Church wherever they may be who are living up to all the light that God has revealed to them.

The hour is coming and not is however that God is calling his people out from following man made traditions and teachings back to the pure words of God because God is a Spirit and those who worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth. Those who hear his Voice will follow him and prepare themselves to go out and meet the bridegroom.

May you receive His Word and be blessed.