What Do You Believe about Demonic Instrumental Music?

[Scripture More Accurately]

1 Corinthians 10:19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Anytime that humans sacrifice something to an idol, they in actuality sacrifice it to demons. If a human being consumes in a worship context what has been offered to an idol in a worship context, that person has fellowship with demons.

There are human beings today who sacrifice in such a manner and then consume in such a manner what has been offered and thereby they have fellowship with demons.

Through such activities, they bring themselves into contact with demons, and provide the demons with opportunities to further defile their lives and activities, including influencing them to play demonic music on musical instruments.

 

[Aaron]

Since on definition of demonic music offered was 'anything a devil wants played,'

1 Corinthians 10:19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Anytime that humans sacrifice something to an idol, they in actuality sacrifice it to demons. If a human being consumes in a worship context what has been offered to an idol in a worship context, that person has fellowship with demons.

There are human beings today who sacrifice in such a manner and then consume in such a manner what has been offered and thereby they have fellowship with demons.

Through such activities, they bring themselves into contact with demons, and provide the demons with opportunities to further defile their lives and activities, including influencing them to play demonic music on musical instruments.

Give an example.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Since on definition of demonic music offered was 'anything a devil wants played,'

Give an example.

I am not going to get into giving examples and then discussing them about whether those examples are in fact demonic music or not. I have set forth a passage of Scripture and my thoughts about its relevance. I am interested in interacting with people who want to discuss the Bible.

 

[Aaron]

I am not going to get into giving examples and then discussing them about whether those examples are in fact demonic music or not. I have set forth a passage of Scripture and my thoughts about its relevance. I am interested in interacting with people who want to discuss the Bible.

Until you give an example and apply a passage, you're only saying that demonic music is what you say it is.

 

[Alcott]

Somebody did too much listening to the Charlie Daniels Band.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

Until you give an example and apply a passage, you're only saying that demonic music is what you say it is.

You are entitled to state your opinions. It's obvious that you are not really interested in discussing what the Bible reveals that applies and want to jump immediately to discussing examples.

You are typical of people who really do not want to discuss the Bible thoroughly and just want to get into the music itself. I believe that approach is one of the major reasons that we have the debacle that we now have in the world.

If you do not have helpful interaction about the passages that I set forth for discussion, why not start your own thread and discuss away what you want to discuss about the subject and jump into discussing example after example from your very first post?

If you are looking for extensive discussions of examples, this thread is not going to be the thread for you.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Is there such a thing as demonic instrumental music?

If the Bible doesn't mention it, then it is not something we need to worry about.

If such music exists, what is it?

That would be a good question, since what we are really talking about are pressure waves in the atmosphere intentionally put together in a rhythmic way.

If such music exists, what all can we know about it?

Not much, unless the Bible teaches about it.

If such music exists, is God pleased with any of it?

I don't think we are given any biblical information about that. It seems to me that the unspoken question here is whether or not we may unintentionally make God angry by playing recordings of, or personally performing, "demonic music." Since we are not given any information about whether or not "demonic music" exists, we can be sure we will not be help responsible for any sins of ignorance. In fact, the New Testament emphasis is to stop focusing on the sins of the flesh, and instead focus on the work of the Kingdom of God, which will bear the fruit of the Spirit that displaces the sins of the flesh in our lives -- leading to transformation. Obsession with God's displeasure with activities and art that are not addressed, even in principle, in the Bible, is actually the sign of a weak faith.

I think back to Paul's guidance on meat sacrificed to idols found in 1 Corinthians 8:

Therefore, concerning the eating of food sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing at all in the world, and that there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

However, not all people have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat food as if it were sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. Now food will not bring us close to God; we are neither the worse if we do not eat, nor the better if we do eat. But take care that this freedom of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. (v. 4-9)
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I have to wonder, what teaching have you heard that claims that certain music is inherently demonic in character? Does it come from a person or group that manifests the full fruit of the Spirit in its leadership and organization?

 

[Baptist Believer]

...Through such activities, they bring themselves into contact with demons, and provide the demons with opportunities to further defile their lives and activities, including influencing them to play demonic music on musical instruments.

The premise here requires that a demonized person creates demonized music that afflicts everyone who hears it. I do not know of any biblical support for the idea, and the principles contained in 1 Corinthians 8-10 regarding pagan worship and meat sacrificed to idols seems to indicate the opposite viewpoint.

Even if we grant the premise that there is such a thing as demonized music (which is extremely unlikely), if a disciple of Jesus hears this music, they will not be overcome by whatever power it has. If a person receives meat that has been sacrificed to an idol (demon), eating the meat knowingly or unknowingly does not harm the disciple of Jesus. The only harm that may come is from someone who is extremely weak in faith who is judging the Christian according to the doctrine of demons (the premise that the demonic realm is equal to, or greater than, God).

 

[Aaron]

You are entitled to state your opinions. It's obvious that you are not really interested in discussing what the Bible reveals that applies and want to jump immediately to discussing examples.

You are typical of people who really do not want to discuss the Bible thoroughly and just want to get into the music itself. I believe that approach is one of the major reasons that we have the debacle that we now have in the world.

If you do not have helpful interaction about the passages that I set forth for discussion, why not start your own thread and discuss away what you want to discuss about the subject and jump into discussing example after example from your very first post?

If you are looking for extensive discussions of examples, this thread is not going to be the thread for you.

No, your superstitions are the reason the argument has been lost, and everyone but you is trying to discuss it.

So give us an example of "There are human beings today who sacrifice in such a manner and then consume in such a manner what has been offered and thereby they have fellowship with demons."

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

If the Bible doesn't mention it, then it is not something we need to worry about.

This is not true. There are several places where the Bible teaches us that God has not given us an exhaustive listing of all things that exist or are done that displease Him.

For example,

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

This passage teaches us plainly that there are other things that are evil works of the flesh that are like the things that are specifically mentioned.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

No, your superstitions are the reason the argument has been lost, and everyone but you is trying to discuss it.

So give us an example of "There are human beings today who sacrifice in such a manner and then consume in such a manner what has been offered and thereby they have fellowship with demons."

Any human being who offers a sacrifice to an idol and then in a worship context eats what has been sacrificed to an idol in a worship context comes into fellowship with demons.

There are idolatrous people in the world today who do these things. If you deny that, you are badly mistaken and misinformed about what takes place in the world even today.

 

[Aaron]

Any human being who offers a sacrifice to an idol and then in a worship context eats what has been sacrificed to an idol in a worship context comes into fellowship with demons.

There are idolatrous people in the world today who do these things. If you deny that, you are badly mistaken and misinformed about what takes place in the world even today.

I assume you are metaphorically applying the idea of sacrifice to music whether in or out of church. What is the idol? How are sacrifices being made to it, and how is this sacrifice consumed?

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

I assume you are metaphorically applying the idea of sacrifice to music in church. What is the idol? How are sacrifices being made to it, and how is this sacrifice consumed?

No, you are grossly mistaken. I was born in a third world country that is now a restricted access nation where multitudes of people practice idolatry in actual temples with actual idols and offer things to the idols.

I have had some limited firsthand exposure to such things myself (prior to my salvation) and have information from national missionaries who testify to even animal sacrifices still being covertly offered today in some of those places of worship.

You apparently have no idea of what is really taking place in our world today.

 

[Aaron]

No, you are grossly mistaken. I was born in a country that is now a restricted access nation where multitudes of people practice idolatry in actual temples with actual idols and offer things to the idols.

I have firsthand experience with such things myself and have information from national missionaries who testify to even animal sacrifices still being covertly offered in some of those places of worship.

You apparently have no idea of what is really taking place in our world today.

What does this have to do with music? (I had just edited the post you quoted as you were posting.)

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

What does this have to do with music? (I had just edited the post you quoted as you were posting.)

Idolaters who have consumed in a worship context sacrifices that were offered to an idol also offer music to their idols in their worship in their temples.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

1 Corinthians 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

God commands all believers not to be idolaters in this verse and cites what took place in the Golden Calf Incident (Exod. 32) to teach what He forbids as aspects of idolatry. Those people ate and drank in a worship context what had been offered to an idol and then proceeded to engage in immorality and ungodly activities that included music.

 

[JonC]

What do I believe about demonic instrumental music? I believe demonic instrumental music is bad.

 

[Aaron]

Idolaters who have consumed in a worship context sacrifices that were offered to an idol also offer music to their idols in their worship in their temples.

So, the question you're asking is what do I think about the music and the instruments used in pagan worship? First, like an idol is nothing, neither is there anything to any instrument or tool. A devil may inhabit a man, but that doesn't make his God-given hands and feet demonic. So I don't think anything about them. If a good cut of the meat is available for sale, then it's good for food. And not for the idol worshippers, but for the children of God. The music, if it is indeed music and not the mere sounding of brass or tinkling of cymbals, is probably bad-sounding anyway, but if it isn't bad sounding, if it's something really skillful and sweet then it's probably out of place in the temple, just like good food.

If you're saying a certain instrument or melody or harmony is possessed of the devil, or carries some kind of truly demonic power, simply because someone under the influence of the devil was inspired to arrange them that way, then that's pretty much superstition.

I'm not saying here that all music is morally good, because that's not the case.

I'm saying there is no spiritual power either benevolent or malevolent in music.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

So, the question you're asking is what do I think about the music and the instruments used in pagan worship? First, like an idol is nothing, neither is there anything to any instrument or tool. A devil may inhabit a man, but that doesn't make his God-given hands and feet demonic. So I don't think anything about them. If a good cut of the meat is available for sale, then it's good for food. And not for the idol worshippers, but for the children of God. The music, if it is indeed music and not the mere sounding of brass or tinkling of cymbals, is probably bad-sounding anyway, but if it isn't bad sounding, if it's something really skillful and sweet then it's probably out of place in the temple, just like good food.

If you're saying a certain instrument or melody or harmony is possessed of the devil, or carries some kind of truly demonic power, simply because someone under the influence of the devil was inspired to arrange them that way, then that's pretty much superstition.

I'm not saying here that all music is morally good, because that's not the case.

I'm saying there is no spiritual power in music whether it be benevolent or malevolent.

No, I am not saying anything about the instruments. You should carefully note what I just said here so that you will know not to bring up anything about musical instruments themselves.

I am not going to address your other statements at this time because each one of them is an assertion that would require extensive discussion of Scripture.

The question is not whether the instrumental music has "spiritual power" or not; what matters is does God accept it, is He pleased with it, does He approve of humans using that music, etc.

 

[Aaron]

The question is not whether the instrumental music has "spiritual power" or not; what matters is does God accept it, is He pleased with it, does He approve of humans using that music, etc.

Music is a human thing, not spiritual. Asking if God is pleased with it is the wrong question. Even when giving good things to our children, it is impossible to please God without faith. A better question is, is the music morally good or bad? It doesn't matter who played it or in what context it was used.

And that I can't tell you without hearing an example.