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Featured What, exactly, made atonement for sin?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Guido, Feb 17, 2022.

  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Yep, God is, in the present tense, reconciling the world, one sinner at a time.
     
  2. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    Why can't you just believe the words of Scripture that I quoted to you?
    I was following Paul's New Testament application of the passage. But do you think that the Lord Jesus did not really die, and so somehow avoided the curse? And why do you think that there are three references in Acts as well as one each in Galatians and 1 Peter to Christ hanging on a tree? Scripture interprets Scripture, you know, and especially the NT interprets the OT for us. 'Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. There really is no way round this for you.
    The point, and the very clear context is that the people (rightly and reasonably) considered Christ cursed by God but did not understand the reason why, which Isaiah immediately explains :
    'But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.' He was carrying the curse of God that lies upon sinners and expiating it. God Himself provided the Lamb without spot or blemish for the sacrifice. 'Because He had done no violence, nor was any deceit found in His mouth. Yet it it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He [and nobody else] has put Him to grief.'
    Why are you so resistant to allow Scripture to interpret Scripture?
     
  3. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    Yep. We are reconciled by the substitutionary death of Christ, and so we have the ministry of reconciliation.....urging men to be reconciled to God.
     
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    Wrong. These verses support being reconciled when Christ died.

    You asked...:

    ...and answered your own question.:

    Lol, Vanism paranoia. A wicked Calvinist hiding in every closet, under every bed, and behind every bush.
     
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    Almost sounds like, Christ paid it all, don't it?
     
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    Not only did he pay it all, he also provided it, "life," all.
     
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    The "we“ in rednecks verses is the elect who inherit salvation in accordance with the new covenant. For "us" Jesus paid it all. For those not written into the covenant...there is no payment rendered.
     
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