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What flavor of Baptist are you?
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Thought you were goin a say Funda Mental, LOL
I forget, how many flavors does Baskin Robbins have? I think we have more.
Our group is unaffiliated with any larger body (i.e., association, convention, fellowship). We have historical roots that go back to the Baptist Missionary Association of Texas and the American Baptist Association.
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I'll now answer my own question I asked in my opening post. I go to an SBC church, but I don't like the SBC. I'm sure there are others in the same situation.
IMO the SBC approaches being a denomination.
Remember that is MY OPINION.
Yes it is probably true that "others" wish their local body would get out.
What don’t you like about it?
Interested....where I live they are really cautious about having any involvement with SBC any the churches (in the past) that did work with them all closed. I was surprised that two independent churches had chosen to hire pastors out of the SBC Seminary (stables) in Louisville. I went a few times to the church but I’m not impressed & I thought I was going to be... seeing as they only graduate 20 a year and Al Mohler is their mentor. What’s going on with them?
Where's this "20 a year" number coming from?
I quick search shows 320 in the spring commencement and 208 in the winter for calendar year 2018. Granted, that's everything from MAs to PhDs,
We recently moved, and were impressed by the
Father to aid in a very hurting SBC church. The pastor is about as new as my wife and I to the church. He is a DTS graduate, who like me, enjoys the doctrines of grace, but doesn’t make much ado about it at all.
There are deep sorrows that the Holy Spirit is bringing to repentance and cleansing,
In the past I have fellowshipped and served a wide variety of Baptist - independent, fundamental (although some Baptist have disregarded that at one time all Baptist held to the fundamentals), even some that refused the name Baptist because they didn’t like it for various reasons.
God seems to lead me to people and places that have been wounded. Some of that comes out in posts as I seek to look beyond what is typed and in some manner discern the person behind the keyboard.
Ultimately, I am an old servant of the Lord who shuns vain glory, and could care less about name recognition, and even assembly affiliation. Neither will be an aid when I will soon stand before my Savior.
Father to aid in a very hurting SBC church. The pastor is about as new as my wife and I to the church. He is a DTS graduate, who like me, enjoys the doctrines of grace, but doesn’t make much ado about it at all.
There are deep sorrows that the Holy Spirit is bringing to repentance and cleansing,
In the past I have fellowshipped and served a wide variety of Baptist - independent, fundamental (although some Baptist have disregarded that at one time all Baptist held to the fundamentals), even some that refused the name Baptist because they didn’t like it for various reasons.
God seems to lead me to people and places that have been wounded. Some of that comes out in posts as I seek to look beyond what is typed and in some manner discern the person behind the keyboard.
Ultimately, I am an old servant of the Lord who shuns vain glory, and could care less about name recognition, and even assembly affiliation. Neither will be an aid when I will soon stand before my Savior.
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In my opinion, they have become creedal and departed from historic Baptist distinctives.
It's so sad. Soul Liberty is a Baptist 101 core concept!
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Not anymore in the SBC. Herschel Hobbs was booed by the SBC. They don't like E.Y. Mullins anymore, either.
Soul Liberty means Baptists do not believe in compulsion. God offers the lost salvation, and each individual chooses to put their faith in Christ or not. The alternate view (also held by a flavor of baptist) is we are incapable of choosing Christ, and must be enabled through irresistible grace, in order to believe. Arminians believe we are able to choose (enabled from the get go by prevenient grace) and Calvinists believe we are unable to choose unless enabled by "irresistible" (compelling) grace."
A third flavor believes our fallen and corrupted nature did not incapacitate us from choosing Christ.
A third flavor believes our fallen and corrupted nature did not incapacitate us from choosing Christ.
Explain distinctives please
How are they important to the topic? See I don’t know who they even are.
Soul Liberty means Baptists do not believe in compulsion. God offers the lost salvation, and each individual chooses to put their faith in Christ or not. The alternate view (also held by a flavor of baptist) is we are incapable of choosing Christ, and must be enabled through irresistible grace, in order to believe. Arminians believe we are able to choose (enabled from the get go by prevenient grace) and Calvinists believe we are unable to choose unless enabled by "irresistible" (compelling) grace."
A third flavor believes our fallen and corrupted nature did not incapacitate us from choosing Christ.
Hi Rob, I highlighted (in red) the part of my post which I think you say is invalid.
Here is what I found in researching the doctrine:
I. THE DOCTRINE OF INDIVIDUAL SOUL LIBERTY
A. Definition.
Basically it means that God has given freedom and the ability of persons to know and respond to God’s will.
Now you may hold a different view, but that does not make my view wrong.
Here is the link to my source: Baptist Distinctives - Casteel
Here is another blurb from another source:
1. Christ emphasized individual decisions to obey God and follow Him Matthew 7:24-27 says, "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it."
And of course John 3:16 instructs us to believe in Him.
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