What happened to these people?

[Magnetic Poles]

Thank you MP, I knew that I had it wrong that is why I asked if any remembered it. :thumbsup:

You are welcome. Glad to help out. :wavey:

 

[JerryL]

Only repentance can heal the wounds of back talking and gossip against those that can not defend themselves. Group hug all you want but I am calling this board to repent.

The "board" called for them to repent and stop their nonsense, but did they? Did they repent for telling us we were unsaved?

 

[Diggin in da Word]

More false accusations, JerryL? I have not found one post by either sfiC or Linda64 that says any one of the posters was not saved.

 

[Rippon]

Time after time SFIC indicated that Calvinistic teaching such as particular redemption stood under the condemnation of Galatians 1:8,9 -- in other words Calvinists were cursed because they believe(d) that .

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Post please?

 

[JerryL]

More false accusations, JerryL? I have not found one post by either sfiC or Linda64 that says any one of the posters was not saved.

Search for the thread with bad hangover in it. Ask any number of people on here if their salvation were ever questioned by them. They never outright said you weren't saved, just said little things to let you know how they felt. Like telling the people that saw the Bible as allowing wine in moderation that they would have a hangover that they wouldn't get over if they continued in their beliefs. Read through the posts and you will see the dissention they caused. They were arrogant and condescending at every turn. I'm not going to go through the posts for you. If you hadn't just came back after you got word they were banned you would have saw it. Before you say I hold false accusations read the posts. You haven't been here to know if they were false or not. You haven't been here in months, you have no right to say anything one way or the other until you go through the various posts of theirs. They didn't get banned for nothing, so no need to shout their innocence.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

still more false accusations? I just did a search and cannot find one post where sfiC mentioned particular redemption.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Search for the thread with bad hangover in it. Ask any number of people on here if their salvation were ever questioned by them. They never outright said you weren't saved, just said little things to let you know how they felt. Like telling the people thats saw the Bible as allowing wine in moderation that they would have a hangover that they wouldn't get over if they continued in their beliefs. Read through the posts and you will see the dissention they caused. They were arrogant and condescending at every turn. I'm not going to go through the post for you. If you hadn't just came back after you got word they were banned you would have saw it. Before you say I hold false accusations read the post. You haven't been here to know if they were false or not.

If they never outright said anyone was not saved, don't accuse them falsely. Arrogant? How so? Because of preaching that which the Holy Spirit revealed to them through the Word of God? Every subject I find them preaching on, they used Scripture to back their beliefs. If there was any arrogance, it was in those who opposed the Word of God presented. And the arrogance still continues through false accusations after sfiC and Linda64 are gone.

 

[annsni]

If they never outright said anyone was saved, don't accuse them falsely.

He's not accusing falsely. SFIC never said 'You are not saved' but often said that taking even one drink is enough to be drunk and drunkards will not enter the kingdom of God. You can look it up - I think he mentioned it on the "Unfinished Business" thread.

But you need to read through an entire thread where he was involved in the debate in order to catch a lot of it. He was quite sneaky with how he worded stuff.

 

[JerryL]

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=46025

 

[Diggin in da Word]

He's not accusing falsely. SFIC never said 'You are not saved' but often said that taking even one drink is enough to be drunk and drunkards will not enter the kingdom of God. You can look it up - I think he mentioned it on the "Unfinished Business" thread.

But you need to read through an entire thread where he was involved in the debate in order to catch a lot of it. He was quite sneaky with how he worded stuff.

Since the Word of God states that we are not even to look upon alcoholic beverage in Proverbs 23, I truly believe that one is a child of disobedience if one disobeys that command. It is found in the Word of God. Drunk with one alcoholic drink? Can you prove that it is not so? If so, are you using God's standards of what drunk is? or your own? The state says .08 is legally drunk. How do you know God's definition of drunk is not far lower? Are we to stand by God's Word? or the state's definition of what construes drunkenness? If God says not even to look at the alcoholic beverage, which it certainly does, then I would have to say, I believe that all who disobey, all who encourage the drinking even in moderation, not showing clear understanding of a command in the Word of God. Now, tell me I am questioning your Salvation because I stand on God's Word. If you think it is questioning your Salvation, if you think it is judging, then get in the Word and get on your knees and ask God what He would have you do.

 

[JerryL]

You use the same Biblical eisegesis as they. Nuff said. I'm done here carry on with yourself.

 

[annsni]

Since the Word of God states that we are not even to look upon alcoholic beverage in Proverbs 23, I truly believe that one is a child of disobedience if one disobeys that command. It is found in the Word of God. Drunk with one alcoholic drink? Can you prove that it is not so? If so, are you using God's standards of what drunk is? or your own? The state says .08 is legally drunk. How do you know God's definition of drunk is not far lower? Are we to stand by God's Word? or the state's definition of what construes drunkenness? If God says not even to look at the alcoholic beverage, which it certainly does, then I would have to say, I believe that all who disobey, all who encourage the drinking even in moderation, not showing clear understanding of a command in the Word of God. Now, tell me I am questioning your Salvation because I stand on God's Word. If you think it is questioning your Salvation, if you think it is judging, then get in the Word and get on your knees and ask God what He would have you do.

I do not drink so you have no argument with me. However since I have read the Scriptures on alcohol and wine, I read what God has said about it. I have no need to justify it or explain it to you.

ETA - God does not say to not look on alcoholic beverages in Proverbs 23. Might want to re-read the passage.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=46025

I just looked through every single post in that thread and sfiC did not accuse a single Christian of being unsaved. I saw where he stated there is a hangover coming that people will never recover from... and I agree. Those who choose to live by the sword will die by the sword. If they choose to embrace that which God condemns, that which condemns will fulfill its purpose.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

I do not drink so you have no argument with me. However since I have read the Scriptures on alcohol and wine, I read what God has said about it. I have no need to justify it or explain it to you.

ETA - God does not say to not look on alcoholic beverages in Proverbs 23. Might want to re-read the passage.

Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. Proverbs 23:1. Whether you want to admit that is alcoholic wine or not does not make it any less alcoholic. It is alcoholic, and God's Word does say don't even look at it. The Hebrew carries it even further to say don't even consider it.

 

[annsni]

Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. Proverbs 23:1. Whether you want to admit that is alcoholic wine or not does not make it any less alcoholic. It is alcoholic, and God's Word does say don't even look at it. The Hebrew carries it even further to say don't even consider it.

Well, then white wine, beer, whisky, tequilla and such are all fine. None of those are red.

But then again, I've never seen red wine move by itself....

 

[nunatak]

I am curious. If you attempt to follow part of the Law, i.e., abstain from wine, aren't you supposed to follow ALL the Law? And if you are in Christ, you are free from the law of sin and death? Including abstinence from wine? I don't get this.

 

[Zenas]

Call me crazy but I'm sorry Linda and SFIC are gone. Yes, they are arrogant, condescending and judgmental. But they raised some really unique ideas that few of us have ever considered. While some of these ideas would be considered heretical, I don't think that is sufficient grounds to ban them. If the BB was concerned that they might present ideas that would be misunderstood or even embraced by readers, it was a misplaced concern. Readers do not take them seriously. Yet, their posts did provide variety and food for thought. Also, Linda would from time to time provide some insight into Jewish traditions that few of us understand very well. In a strange sort of way, I will miss them.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

I am curious. If you attempt to follow part of the Law, i.e., abstain from wine, aren't you supposed to follow ALL the Law? And if you are in Christ, you are free from the law of sin and death? Including abstinence from wine? I don't get this.

That was not part of the Law given in the Pentateuch. When the NT stated that if you offend in one you are guilty of all, it was referring to the Law set forth in the Pentateuch. The command set forth in the book of Proverbs is carried over into the NT. Look up sober in the Greek. In 6 verses, it is the word 'nepho.' That word means abstain from wine. Soldiers were to abstain 1 Thessalonians 5:6. Are we not soldiers for God? are we not warring against principalities and powers? against spiritual wickedness? What about ambassadors? are we not ambassadors? kings and priests according to His Word? It is forbidden for kings to drink alcoholic beverages lest their judgment is clouded. There are clear warnings against drinking alcohol in the NT for those who will study it out.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Well, then white wine, beer, whisky, tequilla and such are all fine. None of those are red.

But then again, I've never seen red wine move by itself....

No, but they do sparkle in the cup.