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What happens to babies when they die?

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AustinC

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I am of the persuasion little childern are safe, Matthew 19:14, ". . . Allow little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. . . ." Re: Matthew 18:3.

That is your personal opinion, however, the verse you quote is useless in this discussion unless you intend to interpret the verse and explain how it guarantees infants eternal redemption for their corruption.
 

AustinC

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Being too young to believe. Such that their names would not have been removed, so would still be in the book of life, Revelation 20:15.
There is your unique theology. You imagine that all humans start out in the book of life, but if/when they sin, they get expunged. There is no passage that corroborates your assertion. In fact, that thinking is strictly in the Pelagian camp.
 

Yeshua1

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That is your personal opinion, however, the verse you quote is useless in this discussion unless you intend to interpret the verse and explain how it guarantees infants eternal redemption for their corruption.
One can use those scriptures to support that babies and infants are saved by the grace of God, but not with 100 surety!
 

Yeshua1

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There is your unique theology. You imagine that all humans start out in the book of life, but if/when they sin, they get expunged. There is no passage that corroborates your assertion. In fact, that thinking is strictly in the Pelagian camp.
Yes, as all are born on highway to hell!
 

37818

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That is your personal opinion, however, the verse you quote is useless in this discussion unless you intend to interpret the verse and explain how it guarantees infants eternal redemption for their corruption.
Ok, so you must believe all infants are to be cast into the lake of fire. What grounds do you have for their names to be in that book?
 

37818

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There is your unique theology. You imagine that all humans start out in the book of life, but if/when they sin, they get expunged. There is no passage that corroborates your assertion. In fact, that thinking is strictly in the Pelagian camp.
The Bible either speaks of names that are in some book or being blotted out. Never spoken of being added to any book in order to be saved.
Matthew 18:3, John 3:4. 1 John 5:4-5, Revelation 3:5, Revelation 21:7-8.
 

37818

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Jesus stated that none ever would gte lost again, and I think he knows!
According to Revelation 3:5 the name is promised not to be blotted out. Therefore the name was in the book before one overcomes and is born of God, 1 John 5:4-5.
 

AustinC

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One can use those scriptures to support that babies and infants are saved by the grace of God, but not with 100 surety!
A person can quote all sorts of verses out of context and claim it means something the author never meant.
 

AustinC

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Those whom God has adopted have been written from before the foundation of the world. (Ephesians 1) They are predestined by God's choosing. They will not be lost (John 10).

God does not show us this list. He does not declare that all infants are saved by grace. We must fall on His mercy and grace. We have no other assurance.
 

37818

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Those whom God has adopted have been written from before the foundation of the world. (Ephesians 1) They are predestined by God's choosing. They will not be lost (John 10).

God does not show us this list. He does not declare that all infants are saved by grace. We must fall on His mercy and grace. We have no other assurance.
We disagree on some of the interpertations of the texts.
The adoption is future, Romans 8:23.
Without question it will be based on God's will and the finished work of His Son.
 

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