What if brother Paul Washer were to preach in your church?

[TCassidy]

So many in this thread think that they own the church when it's supposed to be Christ's church.

Name one person on this thread who thinks he/she owns the church the serve in or attend. Just one.

 

[evangelist6589]

Completely disagree. I do not think that it is about church ownership. Those who are called to be pastors are tasked with guarding the flock.

Yeah but Washer has a biblical message and his books are very saturated with scripture.

 

[evangelist6589]

Washer seems to have his faith planted firmly on the notion of being randomly selected before the world began, and seems to find assurance by looking at his own good works.

Hardly grounds for calling him "brother" and therefore hardly grounds for letting him preach to the brethren.

I disagree!

 

[JamesL]

I disagree!

I bet you do. All of those works mongers seem to be your heroes

 

[InTheLight]

Yeah but Washer has a biblical message and his books are very saturated with scripture.

So do a lot of people with mistaken theology.

 

[Rob_BW]

So many in this thread think that they own the church when it's supposed to be Christ's church.

Well, to be fair, your title does say "your church," not Christ's church.

Personally, I don't see the problem with refering to the church where one is a member as "my church." It's much less cumbersome than typing out: the church where I am a member. Just like my street is where I live, and my school is where I graduated from, but nobody thinks I'm implying ownership.

 

[Rolfe]

Yeah but Washer has a biblical message and his books are very saturated with scripture.

Means nothing. The Devil also knows Scripture (Matthew 4:5-7).

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Washer seems to have his faith planted firmly on the notion of being randomly selected before the world began, and seems to find assurance by looking at his own good works.

Hardly grounds for calling him "brother" and therefore hardly grounds for letting him preach to the brethren.

IE.... anyone who shares that belief (Reformed, Calvinist, Particular Baptists) are not your brothers. They believe the same.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Completely disagree. I do not think that it is about church ownership. Those who are called to be pastors are tasked with guarding the flock.

And the scripture also references Blind Guides & False Teachers.

 

[JamesL]

IE.... anyone who shares that belief (Reformed, Calvinist, Particular Baptists) are not your brothers. They believe the same.

Not all within those camps have their hope set on a doctrine of predestination. Most seem to have their hope fixed Christ, and His cross.

And not all within those camps have their assurance revolving around their works...although many do

 

[Yeshua1]

How would he be accepted? Would the false converts depart? Would people on staff quit? Would the senior pastor be fired? I Imagine that Washer would be very welcomed at our church and his books would sell more copies. But many churches need Washer to address them but they are stubborn and set in their ways they won't give him a chance. Washer has been on the Way of the Master radio and is a advocate for open air preaching. Perhaps more people in my church would be convicted to spend more time passing out tracts, witnessing, and doing open air. I imagine after Washer spoke more would join me in street evangelism.

Think that as long as he did not make LS salvation the only way to see the Gospel, would be fine!

 

[evangelist6589]

Well, to be fair, your title does say "your church," not Christ's church.

Personally, I don't see the problem with refering to the church where one is a member as "my church." It's much less cumbersome than typing out: the church where I am a member. Just like my street is where I live, and my school is where I graduated from, but nobody thinks I'm implying ownership.

Oops missed that one in my thread title. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Yeshua1]

Not all within those camps have their hope set on a doctrine of predestination. Most seem to have their hope fixed Christ, and His cross.

And not all within those camps have their assurance revolving around their works...although many do

We explain Predestination/elction in terms of he Cross/resurrection itself. We Major on the Cross, not 5 doctrines of grace!

 

[Yeshua1]

Yeah but Washer has a biblical message and his books are very saturated with scripture.

He also can get almost judgemental as to what is the only acceptable way to view Gospel and right livng!
Believe just like him to be right message...

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Somehow, I doubt he'd be interested in coming to San Francisco. I assume he'd take the position Christians have no place living in "Sodom."

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Not all within those camps have their hope set on a doctrine of predestination. Most seem to have their hope fixed Christ, and His cross.

And not all within those camps have their assurance revolving around their works...although many do

Again, to clarify.....do you consider them your brethren......yes or no.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

He also can get almost judgemental as to what is the only acceptable way to view Gospel and right livng!
Believe just like him to be right message...

I really haven't followed him....could he be a Landmark Baptist?

 

[Yeshua1]

I really haven't followed him....could he be a Landmark Baptist?

Think more like a really serious Lordship salvation brother!
Who would have you to doubt salvation based upon you not living right enough of the time!

 

[JamesL]

Again, to clarify.....do you consider them your brethren......yes or no.

It's not a blanket answer....

Much like you can't throw a blanket over every Roman Catholic or everyone in the Church of God, etc.

Safe to say I'm EXTREMELY skeptical of those who seem to express faith in a doctrinal concept or their own performance

 

[JamesL]

Think more like a really serious Lordship salvation brother!
Who would have you to doubt salvation based upon you not living right enough of the time!

Reformed doctrine of every brand does that