What is so darn CHRISTIAN about the Republican Party?

[atpollard]

They even wanted to take God out of their platform!

Why didn’t they?
Could it have been because of all the Christian Democrats?

On a serious note, just to be clear: Who exactly is “they”?

 

[Wesley Briggman]

17 Now the Lord is the Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Cor 3

The composers of the preamble to the Declaration of Independence states that their creator enabled them with certain unalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No Biblical bases for one word of it. I consider all this hogwash!

I feel the need to make a distinction between civil liberty and liberty in Christ.

Liberty in Christ frees us from sin controlling our existence.

[Gal 5:1 KJV] 1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

[Rom 8:1-2 KJV] 1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

 

[kyredneck]

The composers of the preamble to the Declaration of Independence states that their creator enabled them with certain unalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No Biblical bases for one word of it. I consider all this hogwash!

So the fact that they believed in a creator is hogwash?

 

[atpollard]

Again, Democrats are trying to expand abortion.

How exactly are they trying to expand abortion?
It is a medical procedure that, as of the passage of Roe v. Wade, was legal up to the moment of birth. Is there a Democratic platform to extent the legal age to abort children up to 18 years after birth?

I know that they are actively resisting laws to restrict abortions, but that is technically not “trying to expand abortion”. So could you give a specific example to support your claim?

 

[atpollard]

Why does being raped all of a sudden make it ok to murder a child?

Does being a black criminal make it ok for the police to kneel on you and wait for you to choke to death (rather than attempt aid)?
Why the selective outrage over the loss of life ... is the child of a rapist more valuable than the child that becomes addicted to drugs?

However, to answer your question: Forcing a woman to carry the child of the man that raped her against her will is to commit a second act of violence against the same victim. She should certainly be encouraged to deliver it to term, but the decision should be hers. Unlike Islam, Christianity has never viewed women as chattel.

 

[atpollard]

It is not the role of government to spread the Gospel. But the Democrats increasingly crack down on Christianity each year.

I agree that it is not the role of Government to spread the Gospel.

Please provide a specific example of a “Democratic Government” crackdown on Christianity in the US.

 

[atpollard]

I never said you couldn't say anything you want.

Then we have “Free Speech” and the Democrats have not taken your ability away!

“Free Speech” did not appear in any Bible verse, so how is this an issue related to obeying the commands of Christ? (Even if someone was attempting to limit it, and we have determined that it has not been limited).

 

[atpollard]

Well in Democrat States they don't really want you going to church now do they? They don't want you to spend time with family. They don't want you to worship freely. I'd say those are pretty big deals.

They would be if they were true, but saying it does not make it so.

Is that ALL Democrat States, or do you have one in particular in mind.

A look at the 2020 Election indicated that Maryland had one of the highest percentages of the voters that voted Democratic of any state (a higher percentage than California). Some quick research on Google indicates that about half of the 70,000 people living in Maryland self-identify as “Protestant” and they apparently support the 136 Christian Churches that I found listed in the state. That comes out to about 1 church per 260 people which probably compares favorably with most “Republican” states.

I see no evidence to support your contention that Democratic States are either anti-church or anti-family, but welcome your evidence to the contrary.

 

[atpollard]

St. Martin News Network - SOCIALISM AND THE ANTICHRIST.

The real question, are democrats socialists....
Because socialists are evil secular humanists, they oppose the kingdom of God and Christ.

[Acts 4:32-37 NIV]

32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. 36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means "son of encouragement"), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles' feet.​

Socialism or Communism?
It is not Capitalism.

 

[Reformed1689]

They would be if they were true, but saying it does not make it so.

Is that ALL Democrat States, or do you have one in particular in mind.

A look at the 2020 Election indicated that Maryland had one of the highest percentages of the voters that voted Democratic of any state (a higher percentage than California). Some quick research on Google indicates that about half of the 70,000 people living in Maryland self-identify as “Protestant” and they apparently support the 136 Christian Churches that I found listed in the state. That comes out to about 1 church per 260 people which probably compares favorably with most “Republican” states.

I see no evidence to support your contention that Democratic States are either anti-church or anti-family, but welcome your evidence to the contrary.

All you need to do is look at Democrat Governors and the policies they are putting in place with Covid 19.

 

[Reformed1689]

I agree that it is not the role of Government to spread the Gospel.

Please provide a specific example of a “Democratic Government” crackdown on Christianity in the US.

You are kidding right?

 

[Reformed1689]

How exactly are they trying to expand abortion?
It is a medical procedure that, as of the passage of Roe v. Wade, was legal up to the moment of birth. Is there a Democratic platform to extent the legal age to abort children up to 18 years after birth?

I know that they are actively resisting laws to restrict abortions, but that is technically not “trying to expand abortion”. So could you give a specific example to support your claim?

Actually no, it is not legal in most places to have late-term murder. And Democrats are trying to change that.

 

[atpollard]

Your choosing to take the most negative spin on everything is not helpful. Quite frankly I find your question disingenuous.

I agree my response was not helpful.

The original question was “genuine”, but answers like “freedom, liberty and truth” ... as if the Democrats are the party of “slavery, oppression and lies” was not really an honest or helpful response to work with.

Would you like an honest complaint about the Republican Party:

They talk about “abortion” because they have no power to actually change the law, so it is a safe but empty promise.

Obama-care was a massive failure because it went bankrupt. The Government became a bottomless single payer feeding trough for the insurance giants to draw record profits from quarter after quarter. The Republicans deserve credit for having the courage to tear down what was broken ... but have offered nothing to replace it. The real issue is a 2% to 4% inflation rate and a 20% to 30% rate of increase in insurance costs. The problem is a $6,000 procedure if you are insured, or $50,000 for the same procedure out of pocket.

 

[Revmitchell]

Does being a black criminal make it ok for the police to kneel on you and wait for you to choke to death (rather than attempt aid)?

What does him being black have to do with it.

However, to answer your question

: Forcing a woman to carry the child of the man that raped her against her will is to commit a second act of violence against the same victim. She should certainly be encouraged to deliver it to term, but the decision should be hers. Unlike Islam, Christianity has never viewed women as chattel.

Got to be one of the most evil posts ever posted on this board. It is against bb rules to support abortion. Shame on you.

 

[Revmitchell]

I agree my response was not helpful.

The original question was “genuine”, but answers like “freedom, liberty and truth” ... as if the Democrats are the party of “slavery, oppression and lies” was not really an honest or helpful response to work with.

Would you like an honest complaint about the Republican Party:

They talk about “abortion” because they have no power to actually change the law, so it is a safe but empty promise.

Obama-care was a massive failure because it went bankrupt. The Government became a bottomless single payer feeding trough for the insurance giants to draw record profits from quarter after quarter. The Republicans deserve credit for having the courage to tear down what was broken ... but have offered nothing to replace it. The real issue is a 2% to 4% inflation rate and a 20% to 30% rate of increase in insurance costs. The problem is a $6,000 procedure if you are insured, or $50,000 for the same procedure out of pocket.

Nothing true about this post. I suggest you actually research what has been done about abortion over the years.

 

[atpollard]

What does him being black have to do with it.

Statistically, so are the majority of abortions ... that was all.

What about the different innate concern over the loss of a life?

 

[JonC]

Since the vocal majority found the temptation irresistible to demonize the Democratic Party and everything "Left", I have a question as a registered Republican of 40 years that has heard lots of promises, but has more excuses than results to show for all those Republicans that I elected.

Like the title says...

In what way, shape or form is a vote for the Republican Party the "Christian" thing to do?

(Where is the verse on lower capital gains taxes? ... the only promise they ever fight for.)

Unless a political party has a platform proclaiming Christ as Lord it is not Christian. It is secular (a worldly power).

 

[Reformed1689]

as if the Democrats are the party of “slavery, oppression and lies”

They are.

They lie about everything (still giving the Russian Collusion lie to this day). They oppress people and keep them in a sense of slavery by trying to keep a permanent lower class that is dependent on them for assistance.

 

[atpollard]

Nothing true about this post.

So my original post WAS helpful?

I don’t think you really want to talk.

 

[Reformed1689]

Does being a black criminal make it ok for the police to kneel on you and wait for you to choke to death (rather than attempt aid)?

First of all, let's go with facts. The cop did not choke him to death. He was doped up on Fentanyl and other drugs causing a loss of breathing and other complications. Now, I don't agree with what the officer was doing, however, he did not kill Floyd. That's just Democrat narrative for BLM nonsense.