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No, everyone enabled to do so can and will make that decision without fail. All that the Father gives will come.

 

Agreed, and we know that the Holy Spirit convicts the whole world or are you going to say that He only convicts your so called elect?
So if He convicts the whole world then that means that the whole world can realize that they are sinners and realize that they need a saviour and then can call out God.

You just fail to realize that or you just ignore it because it does not fit your theology.

 

Actually we know He did: Joh 3:18, Eph 1:13, Rom 10:13

 

You don't trust the scriptures then?

 

He died for the whole world remember or is this verse not in your bible?
1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

It appears that you have a problem with the text of the bible.

 

The only verse that comes close to saying that is John 16:8. But again, why does world necessitate all individuals? And when does this conviction happen? And when we say convict, what are we meaning/

 

And why does whole world necessitate all individuals? You read that into the text.

 

We are able to do so but the choice we have to make is accept or reject. By your calvinist viewpoint they will always chose to accept so you have circled back to the idea that the Holy Spirit only convicts your so called elect. But as per usual on this you are wrong.

 

You really struggle with the text of the bible don't you. We have to see what it means in context which you fail to understand.
Conviction:
the act of convincing of sin or sinfulness;
the sate of being convinced or convicted by conscience;
the state of being sensible of guilt;

By conviction, a sinner is brought to repentance.

You are so determined to hold on to your theology that you will make the silliest arguments in the vain attempt to support them.

 

So tell what does "whole world" in this text mean?

 

unlimited atonement has nothing to do with Christ not being good enough. It has to do with how God designed it.

 

I am not confused at all. I can agree with “new birth” as the definition, it doesn’t change my views. It is a supernatural work of God Holy Spirit that frees a person from their enslavement to sin and leads to a right relationship with God (salvation) by faith in Christ.

peace to you

 

Revmitchell

I have too much respect for you to engage your questions when you are being contentious.

peace to you

 

Not if a condition for election is for those to be elect are not to merit election.

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That is what I am saying. Those whom God chooses will always positively place faith in Christ.

 

Except that is not how God designed it. You do not find that in Scripture. Christ laid his life down for the sheep.

 

"In a theological sense, regeneration is called the new birth." Webster So if we go by your understanding the person has to be born again, the new birth, before they can believe.
That is the same view the we get from Loraine Boettner
"A man is not saved because he believes in Christ, he believes in Christ because he is saved."

Which is the view that I was told no calvinist held. And here you are holding to it.

Plus it is not what the bible says is it.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

So your view is not biblical and yet you hold to it. Why?

 

If faith in His son is the condition that God has made that leads to salvation then where is the problem with that condition. You seem to have a problem with scripture.

 

I will say without hesitation that I do not believe a person is saved before they believe and I have never stated differently.

Your assertion is false

peace to you