Joseph_Botwinick
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I will take that as a compliment coming from you.
Joseph Botwinick
Joseph Botwinick
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What is Your Favorite Gospel Tract
- Thread starter Dr. Bob
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Very well put Granny.Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
We use signs, tracts and the Holy Bible. Our signs/pics are a call to repentance and can be backed up with the Bible; many are exact quotes from the Bible. We carry tracts to pass out to casual inquirers and keep a Bible on hand to give away to those who don't have one. I've also found the complete Bible is better to witness with than just the N.T.
Something Joseph said caught my eye: "most people who get their ears tickled do leave with a smile on their face." We have a group of "counter-protesters"(as they call themselves) across the road from us in one area. Their signs say "God loves you" or "Got Jesus" or similar. They think our signs are "too hard". Someone from their side told us that they wanted the folks to know that God loves them just the way they are, even tho' they're a hellbound sodomite or baby-murderer, fornicator or adulterer, etc. Yes, "too bad that they are still leaving without the Word of God and without any conviction of sin."
Going back to using tracts for a moment, I ahve had far more people take a treact then will take a Bible and who have gotten saved through the use of the tract. Why? Because the tract contained Scripture and for those who have a Bible gave them the locations of Scriptures so they could look them up in their own Bible.
But I guess that they are not saved according to Joseph since a tract was used. Good thing I trust God and not a mere mortal man.
Jim
Joseph_Botwinick
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You're probably right about that, Jim. You know: 1,2,3, say a prayer with me...
But, then again, God did speak through a donkey, so I guess he could have possibly spoken through a man-made tract as well. Who knows? This, I do know: God has promised to speak through his Word: The Bible. He makes no such claims about your tracts. But, I will ask you the question once again:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
But, then again, God did speak through a donkey, so I guess he could have possibly spoken through a man-made tract as well. Who knows? This, I do know: God has promised to speak through his Word: The Bible. He makes no such claims about your tracts. But, I will ask you the question once again:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
***Personal attack toward Joseph removed***
If he would comprehend what he is reading instead of looking to just antagonize and pick fights it would make for more enjoyable discussions with him.
I'll chip in the first hundred.
Jim
[ September 19, 2004, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]
If he would comprehend what he is reading instead of looking to just antagonize and pick fights it would make for more enjoyable discussions with him.
I'll chip in the first hundred.
Jim
[ September 19, 2004, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]
Joseph_Botwinick
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***Personal attack removed***
If only I would just agree with him that the Bible isn't sufficient for witnessing to lost people, it would make for more enjoyable discussions with him. But, alas, it would seem that I have a higher view of scripture than you and am not willing to do so. Therefore, either defend your view, or admit you are wrong.
Joseph Botwinick
[ September 19, 2004, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]
If only I would just agree with him that the Bible isn't sufficient for witnessing to lost people, it would make for more enjoyable discussions with him. But, alas, it would seem that I have a higher view of scripture than you and am not willing to do so. Therefore, either defend your view, or admit you are wrong.
Joseph Botwinick
[ September 19, 2004, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: blackbird ]
SaggyWoman
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Actually, in Greece, the GOC is very strong, and though it isn't "illegal"--we were able to do it--I think the evangelical church paved the way for us--we got a lot of noses up. But we would get that in America, too.
Joseph_Botwinick
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David,
Thank you for your judicious leadership. I am sorry for losing my temper and will cool my jets. Now, back to the major burning question that I have asked three times now and have been evaded three times with personal attacks:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
Thank you for your judicious leadership. I am sorry for losing my temper and will cool my jets. Now, back to the major burning question that I have asked three times now and have been evaded three times with personal attacks:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
Terry_Herrington
New Member
Joseph, I don't know what I said that offended you. I was simply responding to what was asked in the opening post concerning what tract I use.
If you do not want to use tracts, so be it.
Let me know what I did wrong, and I will apologize for it, if necessary.
If you do not want to use tracts, so be it.
Let me know what I did wrong, and I will apologize for it, if necessary.
Joseph_Botwinick
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Sorry,
Can't remember now. You will have to e-mail the moderator who edited your post and asks him if he still has a copy of what you wrote or remembers what you said that was so offensive. As far as I am concerned, that is over. Right now, I really would like to hear from Jim Ward some answers to these questions:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
Can't remember now. You will have to e-mail the moderator who edited your post and asks him if he still has a copy of what you wrote or remembers what you said that was so offensive. As far as I am concerned, that is over. Right now, I really would like to hear from Jim Ward some answers to these questions:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
Very rarely will I use a tract---except maybe to leave one in some restaurant washroom or on the table where I'm seated---per chance someone will come along and pick it up for a "unseen" encounter---"Which by the way, probably is a rare commodity!
The last time I led a lady to salvation----I didn't even have a Bible----I had just finished preaching and given the invitation----and after the close of the service that Sunday morning she met me in the church foyer and said, "Preacher! I want to get saved, and I want to get saved----RIGHT NOW!!!" So I led her through the "Roman Road" plan stored up in my mind for such occasion---I recited to her Romans 3:23; 6:23 and then John 1:12
So--in my encounters---tracts are rare---I'd rather carry a little Gideon Pocket Size in my pants pocket or in my coat pocket---witness encounter pops up---I'm "Loaded for Bear!"
The last time I led a lady to salvation----I didn't even have a Bible----I had just finished preaching and given the invitation----and after the close of the service that Sunday morning she met me in the church foyer and said, "Preacher! I want to get saved, and I want to get saved----RIGHT NOW!!!" So I led her through the "Roman Road" plan stored up in my mind for such occasion---I recited to her Romans 3:23; 6:23 and then John 1:12
So--in my encounters---tracts are rare---I'd rather carry a little Gideon Pocket Size in my pants pocket or in my coat pocket---witness encounter pops up---I'm "Loaded for Bear!"
Terry, you can still get "What Must I Do To Be Saved" from Sword of the Lord I beleive.Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
We used to use a tract entitled, "What Must I Do To Be Saved," which we purchased from "Sword of the Lord." I haven't seen this tract in years, but I sure did like it. It was pretty long but explained the Gospel in detail.
I like also like the Chick tract, "This Was Your Life."
Terry_Herrington
New Member
That is exactly what I think tracts are good for. Evidently, Joseph thought I was recommending using a tract instead of a Bible when doing personal witnessing, which is not what I am saying at all. Use the Word of God whenever it is possible, every time!Originally posted by blackbird:
Very rarely will I use a tract---except maybe to leave one in some restaurant washroom or on the table where I'm seated---per chance someone will come along and pick it up for a "unseen" encounter...
Terry_Herrington
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Terry, you can still get "What Must I Do To Be Saved" from Sword of the Lord I beleive. </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you Brother, I was not sure if these wonderful tracts were still available.Originally posted by Jim Ward:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
We used to use a tract entitled, "What Must I Do To Be Saved," which we purchased from "Sword of the Lord." I haven't seen this tract in years, but I sure did like it. It was pretty long but explained the Gospel in detail.
I like also like the Chick tract, "This Was Your Life."
Joseph_Botwinick
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Actually, your exact words were:Originally posted by Terry_Herrington:
Evidently, Joseph thought I was recommending using a tract instead of a Bible when doing personal witnessing, which is not what I am saying at all. Use the Word of God whenever it is possible, every time!
You seem to be implying that using a Bible while doing personal witnessing was too expensive, to which I replied:however, passing out free Bibles can get rather expensive. That is why we choose to use tracts.
I don't believe I misunderstood you at all.Terry,
That is one reason I support the Gideon's Bible Ministry. But, ask yourself this: How much is a soul worth to you? You do not even have to give them a Bible. Perhaps you might consider opening your Bible and sharing the true Gospel with them. BTW, how many Bibles do most Christians have at their house? We probably have about a dozen or more.
Joseph Botwinick
Terry_Herrington
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Yes, Joseph you did misunderstand me. I never meant that a tract should be used instead of a Bible. I meant that Bibles are too expensive to pass out in bulk. I was talking about going to, let's say, a shopping mall and passing out tracts by the hundreds. However, if the opportunity was to present itself to talk to someone one on one, I would certainly use a Bible over any other thing, including a tract.
Joseph_Botwinick
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I disagree that a Bible is too expensive. At my house alone, we problably have a dozen or more old Bibles we don't use anymore. At my Church, well, we won't even go into how many Bibles we have at our Church. We also support a ministry that makes handing out Bibles in bulk possible. It is called the Gideons.
Joseph Botwinick
Joseph Botwinick
Joseph_Botwinick
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And now,
Back to my question for Jim Ward:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
Back to my question for Jim Ward:
If your tract uses as much scripture as you say, then why not just use the Bible? Is there something wrong with your Bible?
Is it because you don't think the Bible is practical enough as av1611jim claims?
Joseph Botwinick
I really do not know why I am writing. Perhaps it is to point out the errors of 'someone's' conclusions.
Joe;
When was the last time you went to the mall and handed out, say, 300, Bibles?
Or you went to a local parade and handed out, say, 10,000 Bibles?
Perhaps now you can see the point. EVERY tract we hand out is the words of God. Or better said, are the EXACT words of God. So your charge that God did not make a promise concerning these tracts to which I am referring is patently false.
You, sir, are twisting the intent and context of my words to fit your agenda. In politics it is called a smear campaign and it is unbecoming.
By just the 2 above examples you can see that not many churches can afford to hand out 300-10,000 Bibles each time they go to an event to CANVASS the area with Scripture. You KNOW this. Otherwise you are being INTENTIONALLY ignorant of the missions and programs of what other churches do to fulfill the Great Commission.
You posts SEEM to indicate that you are calvinist. Oh well.
To directly answer your misinformed questions;
1) The tracts we use are pure Scripture.
2)We DO use the Bible when anyone wishes to stop and DISCUSS the contents of the tract we just gave them.
3)Nothing is wrong with my Bible. It is the very pure words of My Saviour. How dare you insinuate otherwise.
4)In some cases, (as outlined above) yes, handing out several hundreds to thousands of Bibles is impractical and beyond our church's resources. If you would like to donate sufficient funds for us to do so I will gladly give you an address via PM in which you may do so.
Have a nice day.
In His service;
Jim
Joe;
When was the last time you went to the mall and handed out, say, 300, Bibles?
Or you went to a local parade and handed out, say, 10,000 Bibles?
Perhaps now you can see the point. EVERY tract we hand out is the words of God. Or better said, are the EXACT words of God. So your charge that God did not make a promise concerning these tracts to which I am referring is patently false.
You, sir, are twisting the intent and context of my words to fit your agenda. In politics it is called a smear campaign and it is unbecoming.
By just the 2 above examples you can see that not many churches can afford to hand out 300-10,000 Bibles each time they go to an event to CANVASS the area with Scripture. You KNOW this. Otherwise you are being INTENTIONALLY ignorant of the missions and programs of what other churches do to fulfill the Great Commission.
You posts SEEM to indicate that you are calvinist. Oh well.
To directly answer your misinformed questions;
1) The tracts we use are pure Scripture.
2)We DO use the Bible when anyone wishes to stop and DISCUSS the contents of the tract we just gave them.
3)Nothing is wrong with my Bible. It is the very pure words of My Saviour. How dare you insinuate otherwise.
4)In some cases, (as outlined above) yes, handing out several hundreds to thousands of Bibles is impractical and beyond our church's resources. If you would like to donate sufficient funds for us to do so I will gladly give you an address via PM in which you may do so.
Have a nice day.
In His service;
Jim
Joseph_Botwinick
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Jim,
I already do donate sufficient funds to the Gideons Bible Ministry. Perhaps if you need more Bibles, you should contact them. I am sure they would be more than willing to give you the Bibles you need. BTW, how many old Bibles do you have at your house that you don't use anymore? How many people are at your Church? How many combined old Bibles that are no longer in use do you think your combined Church membership has? How many pew Bibles do you have?
Please don't tell me that the Bible is impractical until you explore every option.
Joseph Botwinick
I already do donate sufficient funds to the Gideons Bible Ministry. Perhaps if you need more Bibles, you should contact them. I am sure they would be more than willing to give you the Bibles you need. BTW, how many old Bibles do you have at your house that you don't use anymore? How many people are at your Church? How many combined old Bibles that are no longer in use do you think your combined Church membership has? How many pew Bibles do you have?
Please don't tell me that the Bible is impractical until you explore every option.
Joseph Botwinick