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What should the White House do with all media leaks?

Happy

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Prove it didn't!

Uh....You claim it did. You prove it did.

Surely you know DOING something is a POSITIVE action.
Surely you know NOT doing something is A NEGATIVE, void of action.

Surely you know PROOF is required to PROVE a positive, not a negative.

"prove "IT" didn't"... is a negative request, and requires no proof.
 

HankD

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Where are you getting your information that these items are progressing?

For example, what's the latest specific progress made on tax reform?
You don't document your allegations, why should I document my affirmations?

HankD
 

Crabtownboy

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Uh....You claim it did. You prove it did.

Surely you know DOING something is a POSITIVE action.
Surely you know NOT doing something is A NEGATIVE, void of action.

Surely you know PROOF is required to PROVE a positive, not a negative.

"prove "IT" didn't"... is a negative request, and requires no proof.

It is too soon to know the damage. In the intelligence business we may well never know the damage done. One thing for sure as lone as Trump is in office our allies will think carefully over whether they will share intelligence with us as they know it is not safe from exposure by Trump. That type of damage can never be known.

It was a very stupid or insidious thing that Trump did. Yes, he may legally be able to do what he did. But being legal does not mean it was not stupid.
 

Crabtownboy

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You don't document your allegations, why should I document my affirmations?

HankD

Because you should be able to back up your allegations.

I am not sure what you mean by affirmations. If it is a "yes," or an "I agree" those do not have to have backup as they are opinion. You can have an allegation that is an opinion. If this is true then you should be able to rationally explain your allegation and why you used it.
 

InTheLight

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You don't document your allegations, why should I document my affirmations?

HankD

If you've got an House of Representatives Bill Number showing that funding for the Wall has been introduced in Congress or a HR Bill Number showing a tax reform plan has been introduced in Congress I'd like to see it. Otherwise any talk of progress on these items is salesmanship.
 

HankD

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Because you should be able to back up your allegations.

I am not sure what you mean by affirmations. If it is a "yes," or an "I agree" those do not have to have backup as they are opinion. You can have an allegation that is an opinion. If this is true then you should be able to rationally explain your allegation and why you used it.
I already answered - these items are/were doing fine until the traitors in the WH began subversively leaking secret/private WH information along with the dissemination of liberal press false news,propaganda, lies and deceit disrupting the presidents work.


HankD
 

Happy

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Where are you getting your information that these items are progressing?

For example, what's the latest specific progress made on tax reform?

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Tax reform is a process as you seemingly are aware of.

IF you want to know the specific daily discussions, of what is being considered, being checked for legalities....
You would need to be a Representative, who is then a member of the Ways and Means committee or a Lawyer who is being asked for legal advise pertaining to the efforts to write a Bill, that can be considered to be enacted as a Law.

Or, YOU can keep yourself informed by seeking what the Ways and Committed is doing during their scheduled hearings.
 

HankD

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If you've got an House of Representatives Bill Number showing that funding for the Wall has been introduced in Congress or a HR Bill Number showing a tax reform plan has been introduced in Congress I'd like to see it. Otherwise any talk of progress on these items is salesmanship.
It hasn't gotten that far because of the disruption caused by the treason fomenting against the work of this nation to better the lives of the citizenry.

HankD
 

Happy

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If you've got an House of Representatives Bill Number showing that funding for the Wall has been introduced in Congress or a HR Bill Number showing a tax reform plan has been introduced in Congress I'd like to see it. Otherwise any talk of progress on these items is salesmanship.

H.R.1813 - Border Wall Funding Act of 2017
03/30/2017 Introduced in House
Action By: House of Representatives


04/21/2017
Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations.
Action By: House Judiciary
04/21/2017 Referred to the Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security.
Action By: House Judiciary
03/30/2017 Referred to House Judiciary
Action By: House of Representatives
03/30/2017 Referred to House Foreign Affairs
Action By: House of Representatives
03/30/2017 Referred to House Financial Services
Action By: House of Representatives
03/30/2017 Referred to the Committee on Financial Services, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs, and the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
Action By: House of Representatives
03/30/2017 Introduced in House
Action By: House of Representatives
 

Happy

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It hasn't gotten that far because of the disruption caused by the treason fomenting against the work of this nation to better the lives of the citizenry.

HankD

The WALL was approved in 2006.
The WALL "funding" has been in committee being prepared.
The WALL "funding" has been introduced by the House 3-17- 2017
The introduction BILL, is "traveling" through the several committees, as is required.
It's a "red tape" waiting period now, as each "committee" reviews the Bill "introduced".
 

Happy

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It is too soon to know the damage.

It is not too soon to know....WHAT are the specific allegations against Trump, that you contend, without identifying.

It is not too soon to know....WHAT/WHO is the source of information, that you relied on for your allegations against Trump.

In the intelligence business we may well never know the damage done.

In the allegation and gossip business, we often do not KNOW, WHO is the source of the allegation and some do not know or care IF the allegation is VALID.

One thing for sure as lone as Trump is in office our allies will think carefully over whether they will share intelligence with us as they know it is not safe from exposure by Trump.

One thing for sure is....."the allied source was kept in confidence and was never revealed".

Another thing for sure is....."you have NO evidence whatsoever, that WHAT information an allied source gave to the US, was to be KEPT in Confidence!

That type of damage can never be known.

Another thing for sure is..... Fostering allegations, as fact, without proof, reveals your own fruit.

It was a very stupid or insidious thing that Trump did. Yes, he may legally be able to do what he did. But being legal does not mean it was not stupid.

You think it is "stupid" to exchange information with foreign dignitaries? That is the way mature people communicate.

You think Trumps meeting was gradual. Nope it was conducted in one day.
You think Trumps meeting lead to harm. Your proof? None.

You want a President that acts within the Law, or a President that acts outside of the Law?

Because it seems like neither pleases you.
 

Crabtownboy

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I already answered - these items are/were doing fine until the traitors in the WH began subversively leaking secret/private WH information along with the dissemination of liberal press false news,propaganda, lies and deceit disrupting the presidents work.


HankD

Nixon was doing fine until ........................................

Where is your proof they are lies? That is an unsubstantiated opinion? Indeed there is much more evidence that Trump has lied, is still telling lies and will continue to do so.

Trump has been caught in so many lies.

Donald Trump Is Lying Again, Now About James Comey

New York Times-May 9, 2017
He is lying about the reason he fired James Comey, the F.B.I. director. Trump claimed that he was doing so because Comey bungled the ...
Donald Trump is angry that his press shop can't keep track of all his ...
Salon-May 12, 2017

Donald Trump's Constantly Changing Lies Are Making Life ...
New York Magazine-May 11, 2017

There's no reason to believe Donald Trump's rationale for firing ...
Vox-May 9, 2017

Stephen Colbert Obtained Early Drafts Of Donald Trump Letter ...
Deadline-May 10, 2017

Trump and the art of the lie
Opinion-The Boston Globe-May 11, 2017




Donald Trump Has Destroyed the Credibility of the Presidency
Reason (blog)-22 hours ago
That's because both President Trump and senior White House officials have demonstrated over and over again that they will lie to the press ...
Trump's Madness Invites Mutiny
Opinion-New York Times-May 15, 2017

Donald Trump Is a Clear and Present Danger
In-Depth-Daily Beast-11 hours ago

Russian revelations reveal a president out of his depth
Opinion-Irish Times-15 hours ago
 

Crabtownboy

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You continue to ask a stupid question. The information he leaked was way above Secret ... above my clearance and yours. Giving such information to an enemy has to be harmful. We'll never now how harmful.

If I knew exactly I would not publish it as I do not want to go to jail.

Remember how Trump said people who lead information should be put in jail?
 

Happy

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Nixon was doing fine until ........................................

Where is your proof they are lies? That is an unsubstantiated opinion? Indeed there is much more evidence that Trump has lied, is still telling lies and will continue to do so.

Trump has been caught in so many lies.

Donald Trump Is Lying Again, Now About James Comey

New York Times-May 9, 2017
He is lying about the reason he fired James Comey, the F.B.I. director. Trump claimed that he was doing so because Comey bungled the ...
Donald Trump is angry that his press shop can't keep track of all his ...
Salon-May 12, 2017

Donald Trump's Constantly Changing Lies Are Making Life ...
New York Magazine-May 11, 2017

There's no reason to believe Donald Trump's rationale for firing ...
Vox-May 9, 2017

Stephen Colbert Obtained Early Drafts Of Donald Trump Letter ...
Deadline-May 10, 2017

Trump and the art of the lie
Opinion-The Boston Globe-May 11, 2017




Donald Trump Has Destroyed the Credibility of the Presidency
Reason (blog)-22 hours ago
That's because both President Trump and senior White House officials have demonstrated over and over again that they will lie to the press ...
Trump's Madness Invites Mutiny
Opinion-New York Times-May 15, 2017

Donald Trump Is a Clear and Present Danger
In-Depth-Daily Beast-11 hours ago

Russian revelations reveal a president out of his depth
Opinion-Irish Times-15 hours ago

Good grief, it is no secret you read and hear accusations, opinions and talking points, and then attempt to argue them as facts and want others to prove you wrong.

How about coming with FACTS, then a discussion with you might be worthy of ones time.
 

Happy

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You continue to ask a stupid question. The information he leaked was way above Secret ... above my clearance and yours. Giving such information to an enemy has to be harmful. We'll never now how harmful.

That is laughable.

Newspaper reporters have top security clearance? Because according to the Washington Post , they were fed "top secret information", by some "unnamed" "government" "official".
 

just-want-peace

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Good grief, it is no secret you read and hear accusations, opinions and talking points, and then attempt to argue them as facts and want others to prove you wrong.

How about coming with FACTS, then a discussion with you might be worthy of ones time.

A bit of advice from one who has been around for quite a while: "Don't hold your breath!!!":rolleyes:
 

HankD

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Nixon was doing fine until ........................................

Where is your proof they are lies? That is an unsubstantiated opinion? Indeed there is much more evidence that Trump has lied, is still telling lies and will continue to do so.

Trump has been caught in so many lies.

Some of the "lies" that president Trump has allegedly made are lies themselves from the marxist lunatic fringe which have been circulated over the internet.
:
Here are a few hundred (originally) from CNN and an example.
Knock yourself out.

I wanted to compile every CNN fake news story against Trump since he became the Republican nominee. I got bored by the time I hit #50. Here they are. • r/The_Donald

Fake News Alert #342 (Adding "racial" to Trump's comments)

HankD
 
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