I have something better than glory I have Jesus Christ living with in my heart.Out of context. Quit abusing scripture and misusing it for your own vain glory.
MB
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I have something better than glory I have Jesus Christ living with in my heart.Out of context. Quit abusing scripture and misusing it for your own vain glory.
YES! ... But, most believers today think they have ...Only those whom God makes alive in Christ, by His grace, and gives the gift of faith, will believe.
Again, it all depends on who the "our" is referring to!The verse in Hebrews 12:2,
where it says Jesus is the "author and finisher of our faith"
cannot be interpreted as "faith is a gift".
You think it refers to every Tom, Dick, and Harry who has some faith!
I'm asking again, and anyone may answer ...
I'm asking again, and anyone may answer ...
Is everyone who believes an "our"?
Are the goats, the tares, the foolish virgins, the false confessors, etc.?
Don't forget, the tares are indistinguishable from the wheat.
And InTheLight still hasn't told us if he's a Tom, a Dick, or a Harry
... cause he doesn't know!
Is that universal mankind or universal elect children of God?Except for in the list of gifts of the Spirit, there are no Bible passages that directly state faith to be a gift from God.
But this comes to mind, ". . . according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. . . . " -- Romans 12:3.
Is God a Carnival Barker, hoping to convince a customer or is God the King who determines who his citizens are in His Kingdom?Grace is the gift in the verse, but everything comes from God, even faith, or the ability to believe. FAITH is not salvation
It is how we receive salvation offered to us in Grace
It both other wise Christ would never have died for the whole world. Election is always cooperate never individual. God never changes.The election of the Jews was cooperate so is election of the GentilesIs that universal mankind or universal elect children of God?
Can a person, dead in their trespasses and sins have a faith that God only gifts to those whom he has made alive with Christ?
Who was rich in mercy? Who made dead men alive with Christ? Who saved by grace? Who raised us up and seated us with God in heaven, in Christ? Who graciousky gave us faith as a gift so that we cannot boast about generating our own faith?Ephesians 2:8 - For it is by free grace (God’s unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ’s salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God. (AMPC)
It's not both. If Christ has atoned for the entire world, then all have their sins paid for and God cannot send them to hell without being an unjust God. How could God send someone who is righteous to hell? He can't.It both other wise Christ would never have died for the whole world. Election is always cooperate never individual. God never changes.The election of the Jews was cooperate so is election of the Gentiles
First of all No where in scripture does it ever say men are saved before they have faith. Because we are saved by grace through faith. Being regenerated is salvation. Man must first be convicted by The Holy Spirit of his sins and repent of those sins . He must hear the gospel and believe then if the Lord see's the man is serious God will save him. It's been called a relationship because both man and God are involved.
MB
No, It is only to benefit us to acknowledge Him as God.Is God a Carnival Barker, hoping to convince a customer or is God the King who determines who his citizens are in His Kingdom?
Grace is the gift in the verse, but everything comes from God, even faith, or the ability to believe. FAITH is not salvation
It is how we receive salvation offered to us in Grace
All to whom God makes alive with Christ will repent. People who are dead in their trespasses and sins won't repent. In fact, they won't even seek God. God must choose to pursue them and save them.No, It is only to benefit us to acknowledge Him as God.
He had asked that all repent
Grace is the unmerited favor that God chooses to grant to a spiritually dead man. Faith is the gift He gives to the man He has made alive with Christ so that the man can believe what God has graciously chosen to do.Think this is the much better way to put it.
All men there refers to those who are now saved!Then how is it that all men have been dealt a measure of faith?
Rom_12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
When we hear the gospel our faith is always strengthened.
MB
All to whom God makes alive with Christ will repent. People who are dead in their trespasses and sins won't repent. In fact, they won't even seek God. God must choose to pursue them and save them.
What verses do you use?
Thank you.