This is ignorant as well. I understood your reply otherwise I would not have known yours does not pertain to the OP.Perhaps it is you who doesn't understand my reply.
MB
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This is ignorant as well. I understood your reply otherwise I would not have known yours does not pertain to the OP.Perhaps it is you who doesn't understand my reply.
To you, it seems it does not apply.This is ignorant as well. I understood your reply otherwise I would not have known yours does not pertain to the OP.
MB
Oh! ouch!To you, it seems it does not apply.
The more you claim my ignorance, the more you implicate yourself.
I don't mind.
I get how badly you misunderstand Paul in his writing to Timothy. This passage has been explained to you on more than one occasion. Just do this for us. Read the entire letter to Timothy so you can understand what God is saying through Paul. Hint: It isn't what you think it is.Oh! ouch!
This is what you need to understand;
1Ti 2:3 for this is right and acceptable before God our Saviour,
1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
You get this right?. Why did I ask? I should know better. Ignorance is bliss HUH?
MB
What was His original plan, if not Redemption?Yes.
The cross did not have to happen had Adam not sinned. There was a future in which Adam and Eve don't sin and that was God's ideal future. That's what he wanted. But he didn't get his will because of our sinful will.
What you posted Must be a mistake or a Calvinist Bible.
Really This Quote says something entirely different that what the KJV says Don't you see that? Maybe not because what it says supports your nonsense. I'm not heart broken over your lack of response. I know you are though, it showsComments like this are why I rarely respond to you.
Many though think the fall was not predetermined, not inevitable. If the fall was not foreseen, then the cross was not part of the original plan, but that is impossible as God knows all things that will occur, and all things are, of God, for God, to God and through God, and that leaves nothing outside of God, the things that happen. The fall was predetermined because Christ was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. And before Adam was, God laid the foundation of the world.@Aaron , do you think non-Calvinists actually believe the Cross was not always part of God's redemptive plan? Sure. Once we get into the weeds of the conversation we have plenty to disagree with them about election and predestination but I am not sure I would start a dialog saying they do not believe the Cross was not always part of God's plan.