Brother Bob
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Well this thread has left me so I leave it. I don't understand or believe any of this stuff.
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When did John the Baptist Get saved?
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I "believe" I post scripture, is it me or the scripture you disagree with?? </font>[/QUOTE]The J.W.'s quote Scripture too, does that make you one of them?
I have debated Muslims in the past. Some of them are able to quote Scripture. Do you align yourself with them because of their ability to quote Scripture? Quoting Scripture is not a distinctive of being a Baptist.
DHK
I "believe" I post scripture, is it me or the scripture you disagree with?? </font>[/QUOTE]The J.W.'s quote Scripture too, does that make you one of them?
I have debated Muslims in the past. Some of them are able to quote Scripture. Do you align yourself with them because of their ability to quote Scripture? Quoting Scripture is not a distinctive of being a Baptist.
DHK </font>[/QUOTE]Let hear a little scripture interpretation/correction from ya'll, so far, all I've seen is "opinions", no scripture, no interpretations, no corrections.
Your thinking and logic is warped. It is the same thinking as Satan.
Isaiah 14:12-14 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
From some time near Satan's inception his one main goal has been to attain godhood. Of course he will never succeed. There is only one God. But Satan has put in the minds of people from Eve, to Mormons, to WOF people like Benny Hinn and others, that they will be gods. This is absolute heresy.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 43:10-11 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
1 Timothy 6:15-16 Jesus Christ Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
There is only one God! To say otherwise is blasphemy.
He gave them "dominion" that is to be good stewards over the earth. It was satan who told them that they were gods. Thus you believe in a Satanic doctrine.
Says who? Is this another message from Satan?
This privilege is given to them that are heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ. Those that are born again are part of the family of God, but that doesn't make them god. To even suggest such is blasphemy.
And so the believers will. But that doesn't make them gods.
That is not how Adam began. Are you a Mormon?
Adam never had a throne. He was created by God on the sixth day, and in the same day put in the Garden of Eden. Don't you bother to read your Bible?
God sits on His throne. In the millennial Kingdom, though we may rule with him, to suggest that we will rule as gods, is blasphemous. There is only one God. You are committing the same sin as Satan continues to do.
No it won't. Do you understand English and its literary devices. The expression "AS the waters cover the sea," is a similie, a comparison. It does not say that any water will cover the earth as you suggested. It does say that the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the earth, and that is all.
DHK
Originally posted by DHK:
[QB]What made Jesus God, the Spirit of God inside him??
And what would make us Gods, spirit of God inside?
I will be like the most High.
Satan said the above, but God/Jesus said "I" would be like the "most high", even the
'Righteousness of God".
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ
Inheriting everything Jesus inherits, even "reigning" over the world.
Haven't you heard of "conforming to Jesus image"??
I'd say you have a problem understanding the "Trinity", especially how it's used to explain the scriptures.
Ge 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods,
Ge 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, (Trinity=God)
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
It "appear", Satan, God, Jesus all three said we were "Gods", but you say we're not, evidently a slight misunderstanding of what was really meant???
Is Jesus God, will he be sitting on his throne during the MK and will we also be sitting on thrones, being his "Right hand man" exercising authority over the earth as rewards???
Ya know the Jews said the same thing when Jesus said he was a "Son of God".
Joh 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and [because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
now I'll quote your words: To even suggest such is blasphemy
The Jew understood that to be a "son of God" made one as one with God, and wanted to stone him, which Jesus reminded them of PS 82:6.
Ps 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If I'm going to have the "mind of Christ", thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Why?? it is God which worketh in you
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Applies to all "Sons of God".
"IN CHRIST, BODY OF CHRIST" makes up a third part of the "TRINITY".
Like the Jews, you're wanting to throw rocks before you know what you're talking about.
OK, so just what was that "Water" Jesus gave the woman at the well,
Joh 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
You're as much in the dark as the woman.
Joh 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst;
Do you suppose that "WATER" could be the Gospel, the "Knowledge of the Lord".
Mt 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom,
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the "truth".(Lord)
How full will the earth be of this "WATER", "Knowledge of the Lord" Jesus gave the woman at the well???
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
This same "spiritual water" Jesus gave the woman will cover the earth, just as Noah's flood covered the earth, one water is Literal, one is Spiritual, and you'll find that everything spiritual has a physical counterpart here in the world, even GOD. (Jesus)
"literary devices", are about as useful as bailing the oceans with a teaspoon.
Do I expect you understand anything I've posted, No, it's not hard to tell who does/doesn't have a spiritual understanding of scriptures,
and your "Spiritual" understanding has lots of room for improvement.
Marcia
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Having God work in us and being conformed to the image of God does not mean there is no longer a distinction between God and us. These quotes do not mean that we as believers attain divinity or have a divine nature.
When Jesus speaks in Jn. 10.34 (which was also posted by you but I left it out to keep this brief), it is a quote from Ps. 82.6 and it was a rebuke: "you are like gods but you will die like men." This was a reference to the judges that were supposed to dispense God's justice but had failed. Judges were were supposed to be God's representatives of His justice on earth. Jesus is saying if even these unjust judges can be called gods, then he certainly can be the Son of God. Jesus is in no way saying that men actually have a nature like God's.
I think this thread has run 2-3 courses and now is into areas verging on heresy and certainly not baptistic theology.
Will cut this short. If someone would like to question the deity of Christ over in the Other religions forum, I think even the folks there would shame you.
Closed.
Will cut this short. If someone would like to question the deity of Christ over in the Other religions forum, I think even the folks there would shame you.
Closed.