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When is a marriage valid?

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Yeshua1

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davidtaylorjr said:
But by your argument earlier, regarding justice of the peace, if the state marries a gay couple it must be a valid marriage.

NOTICE: This post is not in support of gay marriage.
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"Valid" in the eyes of the State, but not in the eyes of God!
 
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MB

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davidtaylorjr said:
Not sure what part of, "I did not assume that" is hard to understand...
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You wrote it I never gave you that impression because I never mentioned it. You implied that I must be for it. You said;
". By that stance, you must also accept gay marriage as legitimate by the government"

" must also accept it". and you do not see this as assumption? Maybe you should have another cup of coffee.
I do not accept it.
MB
 
Reformed1689

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MB said:
You wrote it I never gave you that impression because I never mentioned it. You implied that I must be for it. You said;
". By that stance, you must also accept gay marriage as legitimate by the government"

" must also accept it". and you do not see this as assumption? Maybe you should have another cup of coffee.
I do not accept it.
MB
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It's not an assumption. It is trying to show you need to make stronger arguments and be careful with words because they mean things. I was pointing to a logical progression when taken to its logical conclusion. You are the one making assumptions, not me.
 
Wesley Briggman

Wesley Briggman

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The state issues the marriage license, the church does not. The state also determines who is authorized to perform the ceremony. A notary is authorized in two states to perform the ceremony.

In Maryland, any adult can sign as clergy, as long as the couple who are getting married agree that he is a clergy.

This is a requirement in most states: "Louisiana: Marriage Officiants: Ministers of the gospel or priests of any denomination in regular communion with any religious society may perform marriages."

Who makes this determination that the minister is a minister of the gospel?

Man has put in place many legal requirements to make the ceremony valid in the eyes of the law, none of which makes the marriage valid in God's eyes.

Only the proper relationship between participates and God can do that.
 
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tyndale1946

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When is a marriage valid?... That's easy, its when you say I do and she hands you the list!... Brother Glen:Biggrin
 
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MB

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davidtaylorjr said:
It's not an assumption. It is trying to show you need to make stronger arguments and be careful with words because they mean things. I was pointing to a logical progression when taken to its logical conclusion. You are the one making assumptions, not me.
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I've proven my point. You haven't proven yours. It is not logical to assume I approve of anything with out my saying so. I will not answer any more of your post about this.
MB
 
Reformed1689

Reformed1689

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MB said:
I've proven my point. You haven't proven yours. It is not logical to assume I approve of anything with out my saying so. I will not answer any more of your post about this.
MB
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I'm not saying you do, I am saying the logic of your argument does.
 
Salty

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PastoralMusings said:
That would not be marriage. It would be a long-term shackup.
Scripture defines marriage as a lifelong union not to be rent in twain by us.
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But who decides what a marriage is?
Currently the govt says a marriage of two people of the same gender is a marriage.
So if a State/Commonwealth was to pass a law, that allowed a couple to set a time limit - then
legally it would be a marriage.
Same with polygamist. In Fact, with both polygamist and a time limit marriage - if a couple were to convince
a clergyman (or any other legal authority) to marry them with such stipulations - would the State accept it - and if
it went to court - how would a judge rule?
 
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MB

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No where in the Bible will you ever find that marriage has to be performed by a preacher in a church
MB
 
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MB

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Wesley Briggman said:
The state issues the marriage license, the church does not. The state also determines who is authorized to perform the ceremony. A notary is authorized in two states to perform the ceremony.

In Maryland, any adult can sign as clergy, as long as the couple who are getting married agree that he is a clergy.

This is a requirement in most states: "Louisiana: Marriage Officiants: Ministers of the gospel or priests of any denomination in regular communion with any religious society may perform marriages."

Who makes this determination that the minister is a minister of the gospel?

Man has put in place many legal requirements to make the ceremony valid in the eyes of the law, none of which makes the marriage valid in God's eyes.

Only the proper relationship between participates and God can do that.
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It's mockery to be married more than once. Not to mention adultery. I've been married for 44 years only because God was in it. If he wasn't it would not of lasted more than a few years.
MB
 
PastoralMusings

PastoralMusings

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Salty said:
but to a person who does not believe in God - the view of God does not matter

The bottom line is that there is Gods Law and mans law.
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Scripture teaches us that God rules over all, including those who refuse to recognize Him.
His Word is the truth. Man cannot define marriage apart from God’s Word and expect it to be valid. God does not validate rebellion.
 
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