@Iconoclast posted this at the end of a now closed thread in which e was responding to a post concerning Ephesians.
This is a very good post and shares the essence of the question in which this thread seeks to resolve.
Fist, it is important to examine the specific qualifications of those in whom wrath is appointed. They are taken from Romans 1 and 2. Here is a list:
From this list we see that wrath is stored up to pour out upon the ungodly without favoritism. To all those who meet any of these items on the list, the wrath of God is being stored up.
The next post will show were the wrath for believers has gone.
"I and all those I have posted think scripture tells us...something took place at the cross to remove it from the elect by satisfying the laws demands.
You evidently avoid that.
The fact that you are not looking at the links shows you are m.j ot really concerned as I suspected.
So they are for those who want to read and gain understanding."
You evidently avoid that.
The fact that you are not looking at the links shows you are m.j ot really concerned as I suspected.
So they are for those who want to read and gain understanding."
Fist, it is important to examine the specific qualifications of those in whom wrath is appointed. They are taken from Romans 1 and 2. Here is a list:
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him,
they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another.
25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator,
women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27Likewise, the Men men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another.
they did not see fit to acknowledge God,
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.
they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.
5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.
6God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”
8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek;
11For God does not show favoritism.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him,
they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another.
25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator,
women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27Likewise, the Men men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another.
they did not see fit to acknowledge God,
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.
they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.
5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.
6God “will repay each one according to his deeds.”
8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger. 9There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek;
11For God does not show favoritism.
The next post will show were the wrath for believers has gone.