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Where Does Faith Come From?

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JonC

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You totally mistake the passage and the meaning of the passage there's no other way to say this
You are right that there is no other way to see Paul's words to the Christians in Rome. Do you think he said, under his breath, "not really, just check out what I wrote to the Corinthians"?
 

Reformed

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If you believe Calvinism as it's been preached here that we are saved so that we can believe. Then there is no doubt that you believe you are saved with out faith. MB
MB, do you have to be corrected on this by me a second time? No Calvinist believes they need to be saved in order to believe. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Every Calvinist believes regeneration precedes faith/belief. If they do not then they are faux-Calvinists.

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JonC

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When you have sent your pm's there is no reply button. So your posts accusing me of things that are not so cannot get a reply.
I am speaking to you as a poster, not as a moderator.
In fact in.light of your activities it is better to speak out in the open as I have no secrets here.
While anyone can post anywhere on the forum,I believe it is in everyone's best interest if you ignore my posts and me personally.
You have a habit of going off topic and making me the topic of several threads.
That you are listed as a moderator complicates things.
As A poster I can deal with anything you offer.
Salty, Rsr, and Squire do not do this to me or anyone else.
They like, or dislike or ignore my posts let anyone else is free to do.
I do not think as a poster you understand my posts correctly as you have a jaundiced eye when you "follow" my posts.
I have asked you several times to not do this but you cannot help yourself.
As a poster you have recently claimed to be a "Calvinist".
Well anyone can Claim to be anything I suppose these days.
I do not know of any Calvinist on this board who would identify you with such a label:Cautious
In fact I doubt anyone on here among the non cals would make such an identification.
I asked you one time to show 3 or 4 of you strongest teachings and defense's of the position as I cannot recall any.
Is there any non cal who recalls JonC opposing what they have posted? Maybe it slipped by un noticed.
To see you are right there with Dr. White is more than a stretch as a poster...:oops:
Yes, in terms of soteriology I am a Calvinist. So what? That does not mean that I'll jump on your campaign and join your camp.

What I oppose is not Calvinism or non-Calvinism. I oppose anti-Christian posts regardless of their origin.
 

JonC

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Wow....I did not realize we had gone this long.

Thread is closed due to its length.

If the conversation needs to continue please feel free to start another thread.

Sorry I did not catch the length until now.
 
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