Dave G
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No.
That is exactly what Paul, inspired by God, is saying.
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Which Mystery Would You Pick?
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That is exactly what Paul, inspired by God, is saying.
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Where did Paul say such? Here?...
Romans 9:19-20 BSB
One of you will say to me, “Then why does God still find fault? For who can resist His will?” [20] But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to Him who formed it, “Why did You make me like this?”
Dave G
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Yes.
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That's a hard pill to swallow.
6 “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.
This, from Jer 18:6 seems to be speaking to the House of Israel, rather than individuals.
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Dave G
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That one is speaking to Israel.
Romans 9 is about who is, and who is not, a child of God ...and why they are the children of God ( Romans 9:22-26 ).
In the same way, as Israel is in the hand of God, so are we.
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It just seems Romans 9-11 is speaking in terms of comparing Gentiles with Jews, not individuals.
Dave G
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.
May God bless you.
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Please contend on, otherwise I'm prone to assume the group / individual thing is a weak point of Calvinism on election/predestination.