Which Mystery Would You Pick?

[JesusFan]

The entire Trinity is The Word. Remember the creation of man involved Gods breathing on molded clay to bring about humankind…and it was good. So God breathed us into life. In each instance it is the very inculcation of the Holy Ghost who changes the heart, mind, nature of mankind. We are spiritually changed so we can inherit our place in his kingdom. Angels do not get that gift ….only Mankind. We must be very special beings to God then….we are his children He imagined into existence since before the world began. And He keeps faith with us through the born again (regenerate & conversion process).

we are born into image of Adam, spiritual dead and goats, and thru the scriptures' and the Holy Spirit are made sheep's once saved

 

[JesusFan]

The entire Trinity is The Word. Remember the creation of man involved Gods breathing on molded clay to bring about humankind…and it was good. So God breathed us into life. In each instance it is the very inculcation of the Holy Ghost who changes the heart, mind, nature of mankind. We are spiritually changed so we can inherit our place in his kingdom. Angels do not get that gift ….only Mankind. We must be very special beings to God then….we are his children He imagined into existence since before the world began. And He keeps faith with us through the born again (regenerate & conversion process).

Just Jesus is the Word of the Father

 

[Christforums]

The entire Trinity is The Word. Remember the creation of man involved Gods breathing on molded clay to bring about humankind…and it was good. So God breathed us into life. In each instance it is the very inculcation of the Holy Ghost who changes the heart, mind, nature of mankind. We are spiritually changed so we can inherit our place in his kingdom. Angels do not get that gift ….only Mankind. We must be very special beings to God then….we are his children He imagined into existence since before the world began. And He keeps faith with us through the born again (regenerate & conversion process).

Some people believe Satan had seen the potential of mankind and became envious. Question is, potential to what end?

 

[JesusFan]

Some people believe Satan had seen the potential of mankind and became envious. Question is, potential to what end?

Well, Mormons hold that Jesus and Satan were spirit brother and Lucy got very upset that the Father chose Him over satan to come to earth as the Messiah and Savior

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Some people believe Satan had seen the potential of mankind and became envious. Question is, potential to what end?

I could only regurgitate what Rabbi Freedman teaches…he feels Satan is a mere angel …of no lasting consequence. I disagree per Christs teaching and discription. Remember that Freedman is still looking forward to a Messiah who he claims hasn’t arrived.

What Jesus Said About Satan

 

[Christforums]

Remember that Freedman is still looking forward to a Messiah who he claims hasn’t arrived.

I cannot speak for him but wouldn't mind reframing the question. Was Immanuel or Jesus from the line of David and heir to the throne of the Davidic dynasty?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I don’t know what the Muslims understanding of Satan is…does anyone know. I suppose I an look it up.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I cannot speak for him but wouldn't mind reframing the question. Was Immanuel or Jesus from the line of David and heir to the throne of the Davidic dynasty?

Per AI

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They would probably reject Christ as they felt the world was still far from being a place that the Mensch dominated. Remember they were the people who first came up with this…given that, they would have never accepted Christ.

It's too bad most of them rejected Christ even though their very own Scriptures spoke and prophecied of Him.

 

[Blank]

I believe he is pointing out that Jew is a general term.

Yes, I usually take the word 'Jew' to mean a Jewish leader (unless otherwise indicated) and sometimes an unbelieving Jew, considering the context of the discussion.

Unfortunately, the older brother (Jew) demonstrated jealousy towards the younger brother the prodigal son (Gentile). Rather than rejoice together in the Father there's religious opposition. Oftentimes Christians believe Missionary work entails converting the Jews rather than Reform.

Yes, that's how I usually take the prodigal son story

If a Jew after stating, Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one" and then asked, do you agree? Could you agree and leave it? Most Trinitarians won't leave it. And attempt to convey nobody before the coming of the Messiah was saved as if soteriology differed between the Old and New Testaments. There has always been a faithful remnant of Israel, our translations term them saints in the OT. Hebrews 11 the hall of faith lists the many faithful persons throughout the OT. Sometimes we forget, the OT authors were too Jews before the birth of Jesus and were among the faithful remnant of Israel.

If that was the case we would have to ditch Hebrews chapter 11. But then again some Christians just don't read God's Word.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

we are born into image of Adam, spiritual dead and goats, and thru the scriptures' and the Holy Spirit are made sheep's once saved

Excuse me but didn’t you say you are a Particular Baptist…I ask because Particular Baptists and Primitive Baptists are very much alike.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Just Jesus is the Word of the Father

Oh then where does the HolySpirit fit in?

 

[37818]

Four-point Calvinist Warren Wiersbe affirms both divine election and human free will. Wiersbe also recognized the difficulty in reconciling the two concepts, stating that "The mystery of divine sovereignty and human responsibility will never be solved in this life". Therefore, the fall of Adam was due to human free will.

Five-point Calvinist James White affirms divine election and rejects human free will. White also believes that God ultimately ordains all things, including the fall of Adam. Because he believes that scripture does not directly expound upon the nature of Adam’s fall, it should therefore remain a mystery.

Both men claim to have a mystery that they are stuck with and goes back to how we understand the fall of Adam. Whether or not you agree or disagree with their theologies, which of these two “mysteries” are you more likely to side with and why?

No mystery. Man really had a choice. Election is a matter of really being a gift.

 

[JesusFan]

I don’t know what the Muslims understanding of Satan is…does anyone know. I suppose I an look it up.

in Isalm, Allah Himself called Greatest deceiver, as He decrees and determines what all must do, as he was the One who forced Adam to sin, and even gives to each muslim man how much adultery must commit, slaves and sex slaves to own etc

 

[JesusFan]

It's too bad most of them rejected Christ even though their very own Scriptures spoke and prophecied of Him.

Jews on the whole have rejected Jesus as promised messiah due to spiritual blindness, hold that truie messiah when he arrives ushers in messianic Kingdom Age, basic issue is that they do not see first and second coming of messiah, run everything together. God still saves out of israel a faithful remnant unto Yeshua every generation

 

[JesusFan]

Excuse me but didn’t you say you are a Particular Baptist…I ask because Particular Baptists and Primitive Baptists are very much alike.

yes, but we do not hold to eternal justification, and do hold to fulfilling great Commission

 

[JesusFan]

Oh then where does the HolySpirit fit in?

s Third Person of the Gohead, third person of blessed Trinity

 

[JesusFan]

No mystery. Man really had a choice. Election is a matter of really being a gift.

fallen sinners will always reject gift of eternal life unless/until enabled to received Jesus as Lord by the working of Holy Spirit

 

[JesusFan]

In Jewish society, there is a great emphasis placed upon being a Mensch,a good person whose existence is to good things for humanity. If everyone becomes a Mensch then Messiah will come. They would probably reject Christ as they felt the world was still far from being a place that the Mensch dominated. Remember they were the people who first came up with this…given that, they would have never accepted Christ.

they basically refuse the OT prophecies of the First Coming of the messiah and just focus on His second coming as messianic reigning King

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

s Third Person of the Gohead, third person of blessed Trinity

The trinity is God.