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Why are some posters consumed with politics

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percho

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But here is a miscalculation many Trumper make.

There are Christians who are not political. Some (like me) may have voted for Trump both times but their hope is elsewhere.

They do not have Trump or Biden derangement syndrome and instead devote themselves the best they are able to serving God.

Why do you bother, to vote?
 

Gold Dragon

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politics skews reports considerably, and no source can be trusted without serious vetting.

One of the best and easiest ways to vet a source is to compare what they wrote to what the primary source said/wrote. It reveals those who are so obviously lying and manipulating their readers that they don't bother to try to appear to be representing the primary source. They assume their readers will be too lazy to check the primary source.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I do not know what the Democrats think. I believe his accomplishments have a lot to do with his ego. In my experience those who excell in "type A" areas of life (I am thinking big business and military leadership) have a fairly large ego and it serves them well.

You may disagree with that assessment, but it is not fair to simply dismiss it as a false narrative.
It's not a simple dismissal. The false narrative is that the Dems haven't such huge egos, and I explained the evidence, namely that they actually believe they alone should run the country.

An individual example of such egotism is Hillary's disdain toward voters and feeling entitled to the presidency. Biden referring to voters as "dregs of society" would be another example, though he expressed it other ways as well, e.g., "you ain't black."

On the other hand, Trump's thinking he's better than them is a rather easy assumption. It would be hard not to be. But if someone wants to believe otherwise, well, that's why they have horse races. :Wink
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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One of the best and easiest ways to vet a source is to compare what they wrote to what the primary source said/wrote. It reveals those who are so obviously lying and manipulating their readers that they don't bother to try to appear to be representing the primary source. They assume their readers will be too lazy to check the primary source.
Yes, we see that frequently. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a source that never does that. Certainly the Dem MSM does it too frequently to keep count, unless perhaps it's the only thing you ever do, kinda like laying all the cigarettes end to end thus never having time to smoke.
 

Gold Dragon

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Yes, we see that frequently. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a source that never does that. Certainly the Dem MSM does it too frequently to keep count, unless perhaps it's the only thing you ever do, kinda like laying all the cigarettes end to end thus never having time to smoke.
I'm glad you check primary sources from news sources you don't like. You should do the same for news sources you do like. Compare how often a news source is different from the primary source and to what extent. That is vetting a source.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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I'm glad you check primary sources from news sources you don't like. You should do the same for news sources you do like. Compare how often a news source is different from the primary source and to what extent. That is vetting a source.
No. Vetting a source does not mean spot checking, it means vetting every time. Every time.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Read my post again. I never said otherwise.
If you say so. Perhaps I misread the "how often" and "to what extent." They sounded like separate occasions, not the same news story.

The bias is also found in the rhetoric of the "reportage," how they attempt to imply something that isn't so, or to reach a judgment that is uncalled for. But we all have biases. It's the sources that claim none that I immediately distrust, and that includes the Dem MSM.
 

Gold Dragon

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The bias is also found in the rhetoric of the "reportage," how they attempt to imply something that isn't so, or to reach a judgment that is uncalled for. But we all have biases. It's the sources that claim none that I immediately distrust, and that includes the Dem MSM.

And one of the easiest ways to detect that bias is to check the primary source that the article is quoting, see what they misrepresented or conveniently excluded. Just make sure you do it for the sources you like as well as those you don't like.

Go forth and vet your news sources!
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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And one of the easiest ways to detect that bias is to check the primary source that the article is quoting, see what they misrepresented or conveniently excluded. Just make sure you do it for the sources you like as well as those you don't like.

Go forth and vet your news sources!
On that you're just preaching to the choir. I could say backatcha. Bias is a difficult thing to overcome.
 
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JonC

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Why do you bother, to vote?
I bothered because I was too caught up in the affairs of this world. For the past several elections I voted contrary to a feeling I should not, which was a sin. Going forward I will not vote.
 

AustinC

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FYI, IMO, you have a disturbing and theologically fatalistic view of God’s attributes and abuse your doctrines of determinism to justify your own preferred unconscionable political short-comings.

Me, I will put my faith in that God is Only Good and Truth and will bring about what is right despite this evil that the men in this world have brought upon us. Any repentance of my despair in this matter of the corrupt leadership our country is now facing will be that my growing affliction of BDS will be tempered with justified reasoning.

It's interesting that you think God being Sovereign over all things is disturbing. It says more about yourself than it says about me.

Not one molecule is rogue and therefore outside of God's sovereign ordination. Yet, you are wanting God to be missing and unaware of what is happening. You seem to want Satan to be equal with God so that Satan has full authority which God cannot stop. Yet, the book of Job proves you wrong. It was God who ordained Job's suffering through Satan's actions. Satan could do nothing without God saying "okay."
So, if you're going to put your faith in God, put your faith in the God of the Bible, not the imaginary god in your mind.
 

carpro

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I agree, but why, if this isn't our world, are Christians so consumed with it?:Sneaky

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"Consumed" ? Overly dramatic much?

But that begs the question...why are you here being "consumed" like the rest of us heathens that actually read the news?

There are lots of other forums where no politics are allowed. No news either.
 

AustinC

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"Consumed" ? Overly dramatic much?

But that begs the question...why are you here being "consumed" like the rest of us heathens that actually read the news?

There are lots of other forums where no politics are allowed. No news either.
You are using a strawman argument.
 

carpro

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You are using a strawman argument.

And you are putting yourself above the rest of us. If you don't like it here, just go away.

Being a patronizing judgmental holier than thou critic just is not going to work out well for you here, in the long run..
 

Revmitchell

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I come to this forum and see some posters who cannot accept what God has ordained. They keep posting thread upon thread, bashing God's ordained leader of the United States while desperately trying to prop up a former leader whom God has dethroned. What causes Christians to be so consumed with the politics of worldly kingdoms?

So here is the problem. You are trying to feign a high ground by "bashing" those with legitimate criticism of the current President by suggesting that doing so is not accepting of what God has ordained. Also, you accuse others of being consumed in worldly politics while engaging in criticism of those who have an opposing view of your own.

I have news for you. No one has been dethroned. There is no throne nor king who sits on said throne in the US. Gods word says He sets up kings but does not say He sets up all and every king.

In the end this thread is fake outrage based on personal political preference dressed up in some fake religious motive we all know is not true.

Save your breath. We aint buying it.
 
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