Why the SBC Allegation List Should NOT Have Been Released

[Reformed1689]

Retired Mobile pastor falsely tied to SBC abuser list by local news outlet | Baptist Press

 

[just-want-peace]

Somehow, Freedom of The Press has been construed to mean "As a reporter/publisher I can say anything I want about anybody, and IF it cannot be proved that I INTENTIONALLY MEANT TO SLANDER HIM, then the FOTP is my "get out of jail" card.
I firmly believe that there will be a special place in hell for people who couldn't care less how their decisions can adversely affect others!!!!!!!!

 

[Van]

How many names are on the list and how many of those identified are actually guilty of disqualifying behavior? And why were they, if the behavior occurred, not disqualified by the SBC leaders who were supposed to protect the flock?

Changing the subject to the errors of others, rather than being self-critical, is not helpful.

 

[Reformed1689]

How many names are on the list and how many of those identified are actually guilty of disqualifying behavior? And why were they, if the behavior occurred, not disqualified by the SBC leaders who were supposed to protect the flock?

Changing the subject to the errors of others, rather than being self-critical, is not helpful.

@Van my point is that the SBC is not handling this in a biblical manner according to Matthew 18.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

This SBC dumpster fire just keeps getting worse and worse. It'd be better if the remaining solid churches pulled out and started their own convention.

 

[Salty]

How many names are on the list and how many of those identified are actually guilty of disqualifying behavior? And why were they, if the behavior occurred, not disqualified by the SBC leaders who were supposed to protect the flock? ...

Remember, leadership at the SBC (national, State and/or local) have NO authority over local churches. The leadership can inform the local church of the violation and recommend action. And that's it. It is up to the church to take action.

The only time leadership can take action is if the individual is employed by the SBC ie Lifeway, Seminary, Guide stone, ect. At the local association - a pastor might be on the Association leadership team - then the Association - could remove him from that team - and finally the only action the SBC, State or local can take is to remove fellowship from that church.

 

[Van]

@Van my point is that the SBC is not handling this in a biblical manner according to Matthew 18.

And my point is not to change the subject, but address the suppression of truth issue.

 

[Van]

Remember, leadership at the SBC (national, State and/or local) have NO authority over local churches. SNIP

They had the authority to act on the reported malfeasance, both to investigate, and to inform. Leaders are to protect the flock, especially from wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[Reformed1689]

And my point is not to change the subject, but address the suppression of truth issue.

Well the subject on this thread is why they are wrong in the way they are going about this. So you should not change the subject.

 

[Salty]

They had the authority to act on the reported malfeasance, both to investigate, and to inform. Leaders are to protect the flock, especially from wolves in sheep's clothing.

Actually, they do NOT have the authority to investigate - without the authorization of the local church. If they suspected - they should have contacted the local govt authorities - ie police, doctor, ect.

 

[JesusFan]

This SBC dumpster fire just keeps getting worse and worse. It'd be better if the remaining solid churches pulled out and started their own convention.

Would be time to have a Reformation among the SBC, eh?

 

[JesusFan]

Actually, they do NOT have the authority to investigate - without the authorization of the local church. If they suspected - they should have contacted the local govt authorities - ie police, doctor, ect.

National leadership should have the mandate and authority to step in with real power when these type of allegations are being made though

 

[Van]

Rather than address the malfeasance of the SBC leadership, we are getting non-stop efforts to shoot the messenger .

 

[Salty]

National leadership should have the mandate and authority to step in with real power when these type of allegations are being made though

Jesus Fan -
Are you SBC - if not - what group of Baptist is your church
and if you are not Baptist - what denomination is your church with?

 

[Reformed1689]

Rather than address the malfeasance of the SBC leadership, we are getting non-stop efforts to shoot the messenger .

And if you read the article in the OP you would know that HARM has been done to INNOCENT individuals BECAUSE of the way the message has been carried. Why are you ignoring that?

 

[Reformed1689]

National leadership should have the mandate and authority to step in with real power when these type of allegations are being made though

I am not at all in favor of National Leadership controlling Local churches.

 

[Revmitchell]

Rather than address the malfeasance of the SBC leadership, we are getting non-stop efforts to shoot the messenger .

Nothing about this post is true. Every issue should be dealt with. No one disputes that. What is concerning is the way they are handling this. Complete malpractice.

 

[Reformed1689]

Nothing about this post is true. Every issue should be dealt with. No one disputes that. What is concerning is the way they are handling this. Complete malpractice.

Exactly, that is the point.

 

[AustinC]

I find it heartening that it is being reported that this pastor was falsely accused. This means that the press isn't suppressing the truth.

Yes, it is wrong that he was initially accused, falsely, but it is good that the press is corrective in this matter.

 

[Reformed1689]

I find it heartening that it is being reported that this pastor was falsely accused. This means that the press isn't suppressing the truth.

Yes, it is wrong that he was initially accused, falsely, but it is good that the press is corrective in this matter.

But there should have never been a public list in the first place to have this happen.