Originally posted by doulous:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JackRUS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by saturneptune:
npet,
While not being able to speak for Genesis, maybe he would like to see a debate or discussion of a subject that makes a difference or is important.
Personally I would like to see a Calvinist here debate some theological point here for more two posts without turning it into a Calvinistic debate. Or even, I must be joking to even suggest this, start a thread that has nothing to do with any of the five points of Calvinism.
I have the feeling that if we started a thread about the weather it would turn at the hands of the Calvinists by the bottom of page one into a sovereignty matter, or to that todays weather was predestined to be sunny, etc., etc.
</font>[/QUOTE]Jack, honestly now...isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Do you want me to reference the posts where those on the F.W. side have done the same? </font>[/QUOTE]I would much rather that you show me all the threads that the Calvinists here started that had nothing to do with Calvinism and stuck with the subject.
Would you care to look at this board?
Hmmmm....
Does God have two wills. Calvinism.
This thread. Calvinism.
And Ode to Me. Calvinism.
Where do you line up? Calvinism.
those that he called He also justified. Calvinism.
Calvin the man. Calvinism.
101. Calvinism.
What is First? Calvinism.
The fruits of Calvinism.
All started by Calvinists. And the board before this one was just as bad even suggesting that Christ was a Calvinist.
The Arminian responses to this onslaught on this board are:
Does God adopt His own children?
Fruits of Calvinism Pt 2
Samarelda's opening line here was (and I'm not sure he is even a free-willer BTW):
I have been reading with interest many of the Calvanist/Arminian discussions here. To say the least, I find Calvanism very confusing. It also seems that most Calvanist's entire goal in life is to promote Calvanism.
Why do you suppose that he/she came up with that conclusion?
You will notice that several threads on the board have been started by non-Calvinists to debate such issues as the Temple, Hell, Revelation, etc., and the subject of sovereignty and election don't come up. You will also notice that precious few Calvinists such as you, Rippon, Calvi, whatever, npetreley, Bill Brown, etc. ever contribute to those discussions. Why is that do you suppose?
I'll tell you why. It's because Calvinists are obsessed with Calvin and his doctrine to the point that they can barely think about anything else.
There's also one neutral site where a fellow asked about Calvinism and Arminianism.
So when do you suppose that you Calvinists are going to start an interesting thread about anything other than your obsession and not drift to Calvinism?
Interestly, Calvi tried that with "Together for the Gospel and it lasted about four posts until the subject went to their obsession.