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Earth Wind and Fire

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Well, the Democrat leadership could state their position more clearly, "True Democrats hate America as defined by the founders, founding documents, and especially the US Constitution," but this might not sound right to the majority. It certainly appeals to their considerable left base, though.
True conservatives dislike misuse of power. They consider the borrowing by past and present administrations as weak and spending your way out of your problems as the seed of destruction for the country. But we don’t have true conservatives in office today do we?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You think that is a guess? Did you watch the Kavanaugh hearings and vote? And why did ALL the democrats vote against him? I would wager you know the answer........
No I didn’t watch it.... why should I and yea I voted . And how I voted is none of your business. If you are interested, take a look at Bob Hugan running for Senator in New Jersey
 

atpollard

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There are legitimate reasons to vote Democrat, but you will never get them on this topic where any attempt at honest conversation would be turned into a personal attack and a referendum on Abortion.

Just one question, with all of the times that we have elected a Republican President and Congress since Roe v. Wade, why do we still have legalized abortion on the national level? With all of the Republican dominated states, why is abortion readily available everywhere? How has the "Vote Republican and End Abortion" rhetoric worked out for the glory of Christ over the last half century?

"Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" ... was the definition of SOMETHING??? ;)
 

Wingman68

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There are legitimate reasons to vote Democrat, but you will never get them on this topic where any attempt at honest conversation would be turned into a personal attack and a referendum on Abortion.

Just one question, with all of the times that we have elected a Republican President and Congress since Roe v. Wade, why do we still have legalized abortion on the national level? With all of the Republican dominated states, why is abortion readily available everywhere? How has the "Vote Republican and End Abortion" rhetoric worked out for the glory of Christ over the last half century?

"Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" ... was the definition of SOMETHING??? ;)
You get one lousy liberal judge who overturns the will of the people in states, it happens all the time, most recently in gay marriage rulings. I assume you did notice that getting the right people on the supreme court is paramount in changing abortion rulings. It is also paramount that we don’t lose ground in the midterms.
 

atpollard

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You get one lousy liberal judge who overturns the will of the people in states, it happens all the time, most recently in gay marriage rulings. I assume you did notice that getting the right people on the supreme court is paramount in changing abortion rulings. It is also paramount that we don’t lose ground in the midterms.
That is almost verbatim what I heard in 1980 when I turned 18 and cast my vote for the very first time. That was why I must not vote for Jimmy Carter (who was ironically the first and last Democrat that I voted for). Since then, I have listened to the steady beat of that EXACT SAME drum, droning on and on. I watched the rise of the Evangelical Political Right ... and their fall to financial corruption and sexual scandals. I supported Newt Gingrich and the mandate for change in congress (CUT TAXES AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING) and watched as that, too crumbled to Congressional page sexual scandals. I voted to support the "Deregulate Banking, Cut Taxes and grow the economy" candidates and watched bank executives get seven figure bonuses with the government bailouts that my children and grandchildren will pay for (unless hyperinflation just wipes it out one day).

Are we really one iota closer to stopping abortion than we were in 1980?
How much more evil do we embrace in the name of a "FAKE NEWS" issue.

Health Care matters.
Affordable Housing matters.
Education for real jobs matters.
Retraining workers in dying industries matters.
Liberty and Justice for all matters.
Freedom of speech matters.
Hospice, end of life and quality of life discussions matter.
Incubators for entrepreneurship matter.
The role of the US Military on the world stage matters.
Investment in infrastructure matters.

 

Yeshua1

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Yea, dump trump, that's right..... he is a big distraction. He has taken the Conservatives down a path of bankruptcy & ruin.
If you dump Him, you will go back to what the Dems gave yto us before Him, higher taxes, no real jobs, other nations laughing at us, Isis on the warpath, sluggish economy, Judges bent on gay rights and abortion, do we really want that again?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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There are legitimate reasons to vote Democrat, but you will never get them on this topic where any attempt at honest conversation would be turned into a personal attack and a referendum on Abortion.

Just one question, with all of the times that we have elected a Republican President and Congress since Roe v. Wade, why do we still have legalized abortion on the national level? With all of the Republican dominated states, why is abortion readily available everywhere? How has the "Vote Republican and End Abortion" rhetoric worked out for the glory of Christ over the last half century?

"Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" ... was the definition of SOMETHING??? ;)
Anyone who considers Trump to be the same thing over, hasn’t been paying attention. Other Reps have cowered and covered too much. It’s how Obama got in so easily.

The Democrats hate Trump so much they now want to turn their downward spiral into a headlong plunge into the abyss. It is a grave mistake to join them, especially now.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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That is almost verbatim what I heard in 1980 when I turned 18 and cast my vote for the very first time. That was why I must not vote for Jimmy Carter (who was ironically the first and last Democrat that I voted for). Since then, I have listened to the steady beat of that EXACT SAME drum, droning on and on. I watched the rise of the Evangelical Political Right ... and their fall to financial corruption and sexual scandals. I supported Newt Gingrich and the mandate for change in congress (CUT TAXES AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING) and watched as that, too crumbled to Congressional page sexual scandals. I voted to support the "Deregulate Banking, Cut Taxes and grow the economy" candidates and watched bank executives get seven figure bonuses with the government bailouts that my children and grandchildren will pay for (unless hyperinflation just wipes it out one day).

Are we really one iota closer to stopping abortion than we were in 1980?
How much more evil do we embrace in the name of a "FAKE NEWS" issue.

Health Care matters.
Affordable Housing matters.
Education for real jobs matters.
Retraining workers in dying industries matters.
Liberty and Justice for all matters.
Freedom of speech matters.
Hospice, end of life and quality of life discussions matter.
Incubators for entrepreneurship matter.
The role of the US Military on the world stage matters.
Investment in infrastructure matters.
Well, it's a new day now, isn't it? Those things are past. Carter was certainly a disaster. The matters you mention have been disasters under Democrats, with dire threats of doubling down. Trump is positively addressing many of those issues already, but eight years of the Obama admin was devastating.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Yea, dump trump, that's right..... he is a big distraction.
Trump isn’t a distraction, he is a huge roadblock for the Dems, maybe more of a bulldozer. They hate him for it. But then hate is what they do best. They have plenty to spread around, and, boy, do they!
He has taken the Conservatives down a path of bankruptcy & ruin.
Nonsense. If Conservatives exist at all, they have been going down that path a very long time, farther back than anyone alive can recall. There is always an excuse for it, and they always take it.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Trump isn’t a distraction, he is a huge roadblock for the Dems, maybe more of a bulldozer. They hate him for it. But then hate is what they do best. They have plenty to spread around, and, boy, do they!

Nonsense. If Conservatives exist at all, they have been going down that path a very long time, farther back than anyone alive can recall. There is always an excuse for it, and they always take it.
You mean trump has gone down the path of bankruptcy a few times don’t you. Bankruptcy is one of the things the guy does best.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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That is almost verbatim what I heard in 1980 when I turned 18 and cast my vote for the very first time. That was why I must not vote for Jimmy Carter (who was ironically the first and last Democrat that I voted for). Since then, I have listened to the steady beat of that EXACT SAME drum, droning on and on. I watched the rise of the Evangelical Political Right ... and their fall to financial corruption and sexual scandals. I supported Newt Gingrich and the mandate for change in congress (CUT TAXES AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING) and watched as that, too crumbled to Congressional page sexual scandals. I voted to support the "Deregulate Banking, Cut Taxes and grow the economy" candidates and watched bank executives get seven figure bonuses with the government bailouts that my children and grandchildren will pay for (unless hyperinflation just wipes it out one day).

Are we really one iota closer to stopping abortion than we were in 1980?
How much more evil do we embrace in the name of a "FAKE NEWS" issue.

Health Care matters.
Affordable Housing matters.
Education for real jobs matters.
Retraining workers in dying industries matters.
Liberty and Justice for all matters.
Freedom of speech matters.
Hospice, end of life and quality of life discussions matter.
Incubators for entrepreneurship matter.
The role of the US Military on the world stage matters.
Investment in infrastructure matters.
Thank you:Thumbsup
 

FollowTheWay

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Basically, the only valiud reason would be that you love abortion, love gay weddings, love lnocking traditioanl christian values! And that you think America is the land of the slave owners and native American killers, so nothing good ever came from her!
Nope. To save America from destruction at the hands of the violent Trumpites.
 

InTheLight

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You should vote for Democrats:

If you believe the military should have their funding reduced.

If you want the rich and upper middle class to pay more in taxes.

If you want to shift energy use from coal and oil to wind, solar, and geothermal, and have the government heavily subsidize it.

If you want higher gasoline taxes. Or you favor a mileage driven tax as well as a gas tax.

If you want some sort of carbon tax to pay for efforts to reduce greenhouse gases.

If you are a socialist.

If you want "free" college education at state universities.

If you want student loans forgiven.

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carpro

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You should vote for Democrats:

If you believe the military should have their funding reduced.

If you want the rich and upper middle class to pay more in taxes.

If you want to shift energy use from coal and oil to wind, solar, and geothermal, and have the government heavily subsidize it.

If you want higher gasoline taxes. Or you favor a mileage driven tax as well as a gas tax.

If you want some sort of carbon tax to pay for efforts to reduce greenhouse gases.

If you are a socialist.

If you want "free" college education at state universities.

If you want student loans forgiven.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL


You left out if you believe that fairy dust will fix everything.
 
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