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Will the Jews build a new temple in Jerusalem?

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  1. Iconoclast

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    If they say ezk43-47 is literal...no way around it.
     
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    The Lord will never allow the building of any temple in Jerusalem. He has allowed the Muslims to build their evil place instead so the Jews cannot try to build their temple
     
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    I doubt it, as Jesus fulfilled all the sacrifice requirements, a fact lost on religious Jews.
     
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    Most of the world, & especially the Jews, won't see it that way.
     
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    First, Gary DeMar is a partial preterist, which makes any eschatological stuff from him false.

    Next, the AOD hasn't yet occurred, & there must be a temple for it to occur in. That's explained more in the OP.
     
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    You cannot answer anything from his article however.
    Your ideas look like they come from a chick tract, yet you repeat them over and over.
     
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    Yes, they will rebuild when the time is right and I've been following the Temple Institute. I agree 110% with what you say. So many Christians protest "we don't need a temple! We are the temple of the Holy Spirit!" Yes. that is true, but the JEWS don't know that, and a prophecy of a future temple does not mean it is needed FOR US. Rather, it's just a pragmatic prediction to watch for end times. I fail to understand why many Christians cannot seem to believe it can be BOTH ways. IMO (only) that's a form of spiritual ethnocentrism to say it can't be both ways. It's the same with prophecy. It can have multiple fulfillments.
     
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    The passover & sabbaths were given to ISRAEL for ever. Paul made it plain that gentiles aren't required to observe sabbaths. Has nothing to do with a new temple.
     
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    Yes, the AOD mentioned by Daniel occurred in the 160s BC when Antiochus Epiphanes, the Seleucid ruler at the time, entered the temple, set up a statue of Zeus in it, & sacrificed a pig on the altar, as well as appointing one of his homeboys as high priest. And Hesus said, "When you see the AOD spoken of by Daniel standing in the holy place..." Now, since that AOD had already occurred, there must be a 2nd one coming. And it did NOT happen between Jesus' Olivet Discourse & the temple's destruction. Preterists try to shoehorn many events into that prophecy, but its fulfillment must be EXACT, TO THE LETTER, as Jesus gave it.

    The Jewish Encyclopedia says Titus entered the temple before it was completly destroyet, but it does NOT say he set up any statue in it nor declared himself God. And he had no miracle-working false prophet as a deputy, nor issuing any "mark of the beast", three things we see the beast/antichrist as doing/having in Rev. 13, plus Paul writing he would declare himself God. So, we must look for future fulfillment, which requires a new temple.
     
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    the Passover is Jesus Christ; and the Sabbath Day is no longer the Sixth Day. Israel can do what they like, but matters ZERO to the Lord!
     
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    The passover is the commemoration of Israel's exit from Egypt, & the sabbath still stands for Israel, which, of course, includes the Jews.
     
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    No need to try to answer a quack, although I've answered every one indirectly at one time or another.

    IMO, anyone promoting either form of preterism is a quack.

    Proof that partial pret authors are quacks?

    EASY! Partials believe the great trib has already happened. But JESUS said He will return IMMEDIATELY AFTER the trib. So, someone was wrong-either Jesus or the partial prets. I go with the prets being wrong.
     
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    The Passover reminds us of the Lamb that was slain to protect all who believed God.
    The Sabbath no longer has any legal purpose since Jesus finished the Mosaic Covenant at the cross and implemented the New Covenant for all who believe.
    Israel as a physical nation is no longer needed as the Promised One has come and He is collecting His chosen ones from every nation, tribe, and tongue. God confirmed this end in 70CE. This new national boundary making is ushering in the end of humanity as the spirit of antichrist rises to bring devastation. When the last of the elect come to faith, God will return and burn this world to cinders and ashes.
     
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    A proof text that this is true is Jesus warning in Matthew 24:20, ". . . But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: . . ."
     
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    Jesus dwells in a temple not made with hands, made of living stones, and in which the sacrifices of righteousness are continually made.
     
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    There absolutely will be a Millennial Temple from which the risen Jesus of Nazareth will rule for 1000 years.
     
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    Lo! Here! Lo there! He's sitting on a throne in the new temple on the temple Mt in Jerusalem, Israel!

    Not! Don't bother to go.

    20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
    21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
    22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
    23 And they shall say to you, Lo, there! Lo, here! go not away, nor follow after them:
    24 for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day. Lk 17

    He is everywhere. Now.
     
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    how does the DOR prevent the building of the 3rd Temple?
     
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    that's currently true ...

    but I understand EZ 43 to be the "shazam" moment for these folks ... some (short) period of time before antichrist enters the Temple/Holy of Holies and declares himself to be God.

    "nuh uh! He was just here. We saw his nail-scarred hands."

    That's when AC goes bezerk.
     
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    You cannot answer him, because you do not have the ability to. Right or wrong, he would make short work of you.
     
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