Will the Jews build a new temple in Jerusalem?

[Iconoclast]

Ar

e you saying we still need to perform animal sacrifices?

If they say ezk43-47 is literal...no way around it.

 

[SavedByGrace]

The Lord will never allow the building of any temple in Jerusalem. He has allowed the Muslims to build their evil place instead so the Jews cannot try to build their temple

 

[robycop3]

Will the sacrifices of the “Tribulation” Temple be efficacious?

I doubt it, as Jesus fulfilled all the sacrifice requirements, a fact lost on religious Jews.

 

[robycop3]

If they build a temple, it will be to Antichrist.
The Mosaic covenant is finished. The temple sacrifices are done away with.

Most of the world, & especially the Jews, won't see it that way.

 

[robycop3]

A Third Temple is necessary for the Futurist view, but there is no Biblical support for this view. If you have the time (and the inclination), I suggest reading through this article by Gary DeMar - Does the Bible Teach that the Temple Will be Rebuilt? - The American Vision.

I've copied a few of the main points below.
There is no need for a temple or animal sacrifice. Those days are long gone. Jesus was that final sacrifice, the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. There is no need for an altar or a temple or the Aaronic priesthood. Jesus fulfills all of these.
Jesus speaks of the destruction of the Temple (which happened in AD 70), but never of its reconstruction.

Since Daniel was written after Solomon’s temple had been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC (2 Kings 25:8–9; Dan. 1:1–2) and before the second temple had been built by the returning exiles (Ezra 6:13–15), it stands to reason that the “sanctuary” whose “end will come with a flood” (Dan. 9:26) must refer to the second temple that had not been built at the time the prophecy was given. It was this post-exile rebuilt temple that was desecrated by Antiochus Epiphanes around 170 BC but not destroyed. After a period of misuse and disuse, Herod the Great restored and enlarged this second temple, a project that started around 20 BC and was completed just a few years before it was destroyed in AD 70 by the Romans, just as Jesus had predicted.

First, Gary DeMar is a partial preterist, which makes any eschatological stuff from him false.

Next, the AOD hasn't yet occurred, & there must be a temple for it to occur in. That's explained more in the OP.

 

[Iconoclast]

First, Gary DeMar is a partial preterist, which makes any eschatological stuff from him false.

Next, the AOD hasn't yet occurred, & there must be a temple for it to occur in. That's explained more in the OP.

You cannot answer anything from his article however.
Your ideas look like they come from a chick tract, yet you repeat them over and over.

 

[liafailrock]

I believe the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem. They have the materials gathered; last year they consecrated an altar to be used in it, & they've been breeding animals such as red heifers to be used in temple rites. The only thing holding them back is timing. They don't want to start WW3.

And a new temple is necessary for the beast/antichrist to commit the "abomination of desolation" in, It was NOT done in the old temple before it was destroyed. And it WILL occur; that's a prophecy from Jesus Himself.

And what will the AOD be? The beast will enter the temple, accompanied by his sidekick the false prophet, set up a statue of himself in it, which the FP will supernaturally make speak, and declare himself God. That type was done by Antiochus Epiphanes in the 160s BC when he entered the temple, set up a statue of Zeus in it, & sacrificed a pig on the altar. Differences will be that the beast, who won't recognize any other god, will set up a statue of himself, rather than anything recognized as a god, & the FP, by Satan's power, will make that statue speak. I don't believe he will offer any animal on the altar, as he will recognize only himself as God, but he will definitely end the Jewish sacrifices on it.

YOUR opinions, please ?

Yes, they will rebuild when the time is right and I've been following the Temple Institute. I agree 110% with what you say. So many Christians protest "we don't need a temple! We are the temple of the Holy Spirit!" Yes. that is true, but the JEWS don't know that, and a prophecy of a future temple does not mean it is needed FOR US. Rather, it's just a pragmatic prediction to watch for end times. I fail to understand why many Christians cannot seem to believe it can be BOTH ways. IMO (only) that's a form of spiritual ethnocentrism to say it can't be both ways. It's the same with prophecy. It can have multiple fulfillments.

 

[robycop3]

Those looking for a literal temple will fight to the death saying any form of sabbath has been done away now.
Yet we are clearly told that a sabbath is in effect, as well as new moon festivals,and animal sin offerings?
45:17,46:3

The passover & sabbaths were given to ISRAEL for ever. Paul made it plain that gentiles aren't required to observe sabbaths. Has nothing to do with a new temple.

 

[robycop3]

Yes, they will rebuild when the time is right and I've been following the Temple Institute. I agree 110% with what you say. So many Christians protest "we don't need a temple! We are the temple of the Holy Spirit!" Yes. that is true, but the JEWS don't know that, and a prophecy of a future temple does not mean it is needed FOR US. Rather, it's just a pragmatic prediction to watch for end times. I fail to understand why many Christians cannot seem to believe it can be BOTH ways. IMO (only) that's a form of spiritual ethnocentrism to say it can't be both ways. It's the same with prophecy. It can have multiple fulfillments.

Yes, the AOD mentioned by Daniel occurred in the 160s BC when Antiochus Epiphanes, the Seleucid ruler at the time, entered the temple, set up a statue of Zeus in it, & sacrificed a pig on the altar, as well as appointing one of his homeboys as high priest. And Hesus said, "When you see the AOD spoken of by Daniel standing in the holy place..." Now, since that AOD had already occurred, there must be a 2nd one coming. And it did NOT happen between Jesus' Olivet Discourse & the temple's destruction. Preterists try to shoehorn many events into that prophecy, but its fulfillment must be EXACT, TO THE LETTER, as Jesus gave it.

The Jewish Encyclopedia says Titus entered the temple before it was completly destroyet, but it does NOT say he set up any statue in it nor declared himself God. And he had no miracle-working false prophet as a deputy, nor issuing any "mark of the beast", three things we see the beast/antichrist as doing/having in Rev. 13, plus Paul writing he would declare himself God. So, we must look for future fulfillment, which requires a new temple.

 

[SavedByGrace]

The passover & sabbaths were given to ISRAEL for ever.

the Passover is Jesus Christ; and the Sabbath Day is no longer the Sixth Day. Israel can do what they like, but matters ZERO to the Lord!

 

[robycop3]

the Passover is Jesus Christ; and the Sabbath Day is no longer the Sixth Day. Israel can do what they like, but matters ZERO to the Lord!

The passover is the commemoration of Israel's exit from Egypt, & the sabbath still stands for Israel, which, of course, includes the Jews.

 

[robycop3]

You cannot answer anything from his article however.
Your ideas look like they come from a chick tract, yet you repeat them over and over.

No need to try to answer a quack, although I've answered every one indirectly at one time or another.

IMO, anyone promoting either form of preterism is a quack.

Proof that partial pret authors are quacks?

EASY! Partials believe the great trib has already happened. But JESUS said He will return IMMEDIATELY AFTER the trib. So, someone was wrong-either Jesus or the partial prets. I go with the prets being wrong.

 

[AustinC]

The passover is the commemoration of Israel's exit from Egypt, & the sabbath still stands for Israel, which, of course, includes the Jews.

The Passover reminds us of the Lamb that was slain to protect all who believed God.
The Sabbath no longer has any legal purpose since Jesus finished the Mosaic Covenant at the cross and implemented the New Covenant for all who believe.
Israel as a physical nation is no longer needed as the Promised One has come and He is collecting His chosen ones from every nation, tribe, and tongue. God confirmed this end in 70CE. This new national boundary making is ushering in the end of humanity as the spirit of antichrist rises to bring devastation. When the last of the elect come to faith, God will return and burn this world to cinders and ashes.

 

[37818]

The passover is the commemoration of Israel's exit from Egypt, & the sabbath still stands for Israel, which, of course, includes the Jews.

A proof text that this is true is Jesus warning in Matthew 24:20, ". . . But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: . . ."

 

[Aaron]

I believe the Jews will build a new temple in Jerusalem. They have the materials gathered; last year they consecrated an altar to be used in it, & they've been breeding animals such as red heifers to be used in temple rites. The only thing holding them back is timing. They don't want to start WW3.

And a new temple is necessary for the beast/antichrist to commit the "abomination of desolation" in, It was NOT done in the old temple before it was destroyed. And it WILL occur; that's a prophecy from Jesus Himself.

And what will the AOD be? The beast will enter the temple, accompanied by his sidekick the false prophet, set up a statue of himself in it, which the FP will supernaturally make speak, and declare himself God. That type was done by Antiochus Epiphanes in the 160s BC when he entered the temple, set up a statue of Zeus in it, & sacrificed a pig on the altar. Differences will be that the beast, who won't recognize any other god, will set up a statue of himself, rather than anything recognized as a god, & the FP, by Satan's power, will make that statue speak. I don't believe he will offer any animal on the altar, as he will recognize only himself as God, but he will definitely end the Jewish sacrifices on it.

YOUR opinions, please ?

Jesus dwells in a temple not made with hands, made of living stones, and in which the sacrifices of righteousness are continually made.

 

[Scripture More Accurately]

There absolutely will be a Millennial Temple from which the risen Jesus of Nazareth will rule for 1000 years.

 

[kyredneck]

There absolutely will be a Millennial Temple from which the risen Jesus of Nazareth will rule for 1000 years.

Lo! Here! Lo there! He's sitting on a throne in the new temple on the temple Mt in Jerusalem, Israel!

Not! Don't bother to go.

20 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God cometh, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 neither shall they say, Lo, here! or, There! for lo, the kingdom of God is within you.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
23 And they shall say to you, Lo, there! Lo, here! go not away, nor follow after them:
24 for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day. Lk 17

He is everywhere. Now.

 

[Two Wings]

The Lord will never allow the building of any temple in Jerusalem. He has allowed the Muslims to build their evil place instead so the Jews cannot try to build their temple

how does the DOR prevent the building of the 3rd Temple?

 

[Two Wings]

a fact lost on religious Jews.

that's currently true ...

but I understand EZ 43 to be the "shazam" moment for these folks ... some (short) period of time before antichrist enters the Temple/Holy of Holies and declares himself to be God.

"nuh uh! He was just here. We saw his nail-scarred hands."

That's when AC goes bezerk.

 

[Iconoclast]

First, Gary DeMar is a partial preterist, which makes any eschatological stuff from him false.

Next, the AOD hasn't yet occurred, & there must be a temple for it to occur in. That's explained more in the OP.

You cannot answer him, because you do not have the ability to. Right or wrong, he would make short work of you.