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Wine & Alcohol part 37

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ituttut said:
Darrell said:
Like that Darrell. But I don't believe He made the wine weak, for that (which you refer to) would mean He has made sex weak?? Don't you believe it. In the married couple it is powerful, and "makes glad the heart", just as wine, and it is measured. Not so with the orgies, or one nightstands of pent-up desires, just as with wine. Just a little for the stomachs sake, and please remember Me, He says, with a cup that represents my "pure" blood.
This post is pure nonsense. Also, because it is against Christ's nature to make or even endorse alcohol, I am sure it is a stench in the nostrils of God.
 
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Alcott

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DHK said:
That is pure rationalization. Joseph was speaking of human nature, sin, and the providence of God.

And this is true of grapes, barley, rye, et al.

"yeast" is a symbol of corruption all throught the Bible.

You're lying again. It is used to represent the Kingdom also.

Wine is a mocker; strong drink is raging..."

And "give it to him whose life is bitter" [Proverbs 31].
 
Alcott said:
And this is true of grapes, barley, rye, et al.



You're lying again. It is used to represent the Kingdom also.



And "give it to him whose life is bitter" [Proverbs 31].
Let's see, since you say that verse is speaking of alcohol and God says alcohol is poison, the way we are supposed to interpret that scripture is

Proverbs 31:6 6 Give poison unto him that is ready to perish, and venom of asps.. unto those that be of heavy hearts.

No thanks, I'll just continue to give them Jesus who can give them a joy unspeakable and full of glory. He also give them a peace that passes all understanding, by the way. No need for poison.
 

Alcott

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Is it, or isn't it, poison?
Does the Word, or does it not, say to give it to one whose life is bitter?
 

UnchartedSpirit

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So Christ should have let the water stay water. Or he was allowing sinners to keep on making their own decisions, if there were no righteouss at his Mother's party. Maybe Christ invented a non-alcholic wine!
 
UnchartedSpirit said:
So Christ should have let the water stay water. Or he was allowing sinners to keep on making their own decisions, if there were no righteouss at his Mother's party. Maybe Christ invented a non-alcholic wine!

His mother's party? Where in the world did you get that?
 

Alcott

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Diggin in da Word said:
The Bible also tells us to have no experience with alcohol, so I would say we are not even to have it when we are bitter.

Then don't be a coward to answer Yes or No. Does the Word identify alcoholic wine as its subject in Proverbs 31, then say to give it to one whose life is bitter?
 
Alcott said:
Then don't be a coward to answer Yes or No. Does the Word identify alcoholic wine as its subject in Proverbs 31, then say to give it to one whose life is bitter?

We have laws today against practicing medicine without a medical degree. The New Testament tells us we are to obey those who have rule over us. Since I am not a doctor, I must adhere to the fact that I cannot dispense medicine.

Doctors have drugs that take care of dying patients, alcohol is no longer needed.
 

Linda64

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Alcott said:
I have. I learned to read my numbers weeks ago.

That's great that you learned your numbers!! Now you can begin learning the truth that is written in God's Word concerning alcohol.
 

Alcott

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"Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to him whose life is bitter." I'll try real hard to learn that.
 

av1611jim

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Alcott said:
"Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to him whose life is bitter." I'll try real hard to learn that.


Ok. I apologize.
I said that I would not return to this thread since it profits me little if any at all.

However; this comment I could not resist to reply to.

Call me weak in the flesh, ok?

Alcott; are you dying? If so then drink all the booze you want, it will make the crematory happy since you will burn more thoroughly.

Is your life bitter? Then may I suggest a strong dose of Jesus' Blood. It maketh the heart glad.

Otherwise, you can forget trying to wrest this scripture to your profit. It will only lead to your destruction.
2Pe 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Have a jolly time boozing it up, OR if you prefer, have a jolly time encouraging others to take the poison of asps into their bosom that they might die or kill others while intoxicated.
 
Alcott said:
"Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to him whose life is bitter." I'll try real hard to learn that.

Now Alcott, as many times as you have posted that verse if you still have not learned it, I can see why you have such a difficult time understanding that God does not want His children drinking alcoholic beverages.
 

SoulWinningLady

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Originally Posted by SoulWinningLady
Those of you who are "for" drinking in moderation. Please tell me, how many glasses of wine is considered "intoxicated" to you? When you start to feel a buzz, is that being drunk? Where do you draw the line? If I have a drink of wine, which I have not for along time, but if I did, I know I would feel a small buzz after that one glass. What does that buzz mean? Do you have a buzz after one glass of wine? I mean a small buzz.
Anyone???


whatever said:
I'm not "for" drinking in moderation. I am against making up sins and changing what the Bible says to fit my prejudices. I am against those who say that "wine" and "strong drink" mean alcohol when spoken against and mean juice when spoken in favor of. If you do not do this then you and I have no quarrel.

If you don't want to drink wine because it would give you a buzz then don't drink wine. I ought not say whether you ought to drink wine or not. It's none of my business. I will say that you ought not get drunk, because the Bible is clear on that point. The rest is up to you.

Nice dodge there. Now, can ANYONE here PLEASE tell me where the line for drunkeness is. Those of you who are FOR drinking in moderation have not once answered at what point do you consider a person drunk. One glass, 2 glasses, 3 glasses. Come on people. Quit the dodging and just answer the question!!!
 
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