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[standingfirminChrist]

I' will believe the Word oif God rather than your internet sources, Helen. The Word of God nowhere says beer was around in Bible times.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

I' will believe the Word oif God rather than your internet sources, Helen. The Word of God nowhere says beer was around in Bible times.

Holy cow, the logic break here is off the meter! Silence on a matter doesn't mean it didn't exist. SFIC, the more you talk, the more you step in it.

Especially given any research will prove you wrong. It isn't just "Helen's" internet link.

 

[Helen]

Deu 32:32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:
Deu 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

That's the poison verses I think you are talking about. Do a word study on the word THEIR. It's talking about a certain people, the people of Gomorrah, not all wine.

I quoted that to him on another wine thread months or years ago (time passes so fast when you're having fun!), Jerry. He does not like the word 'context.'

 

[standingfirminChrist]

That stupid link you gave was about a man made god of the underworld... certainly not to be believed by any that calls themselves Christian.

Christ hath no communion with Belial.

Your sources are going to present lies since they come from a man made god.

 

[saturneptune]

Moderators, attention PLEASE!!!! This is beyond ridiculous. Please put this thread out of its misery.

 

[Helen]

Holy cow, the logic break here is off the meter! Silence on a matter doesn't mean it didn't exist. SFIC, the more you talk, the more you step in it.

Especially given any research will prove you wrong. It isn't just "Helen's" internet link.

The Bible doesn't talk about the Grand Canyon, either, so it doesn't exist, either. Didn't you know?

 

[tinytim]

Yeah, I know, Jerry. One of the passages was even from Proverbs -- the same book he keeps quoting. "Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish." I guess Standing figures that can't really mean what it says or that poor old King Lemuel was encouraging people to sin! Actually, my Bible says his mother taught him the sayings in Proverbs 31. What a bad mom!

Don't you know that the dying wish of my Great Great uncle twice removed was to have a shot of Welches Grape Juice....

He said nothing was as smooth as it...

 

[Helen]

That stupid link you gave was about a man made god of the underworld... certainly not to be believed by any that calls themselves Christian.

Christ hath no communion with Belial.

Your sources are going to present lies since they come from a man made god.

Good gravy! The link was an educational resource and spoke of the legend behind the making of beer by the Egyptians. The fact that they made beer is not even in dispute among scholars, Christian and otherwise!

 

[standingfirminChrist]

I quoted that to him on another wine thread months or years ago (time passes so fast when you're having fun!), Jerry. He does not like the word 'context.'

Apparently you either do not know what context is or do not like it yourself. Reading the Scripture in context shows God disapproves of fermented beverage.

 

[Helen]

Moderators, attention PLEASE!!!! This is beyond ridiculous. Please put this thread out of its misery.

Awww, come on. It's not quite 8:30 here on the West Coast and if I have to get up that means I have to get some actual work done before bed. Why would you want to do that to me?

 

[standingfirminChrist]

The Bible doesn't talk about the Grand Canyon, either, so it doesn't exist, either. Didn't you know?

More foolish statements, Helen?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Brewing grain beverages is as old as agriculture.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Good gravy! The link was an educational resource and spoke of the legend behind the making of beer by the Egyptians. The fact that they made beer is not even in dispute among scholars, Christian and otherwise!

Legend Helen... legend. of a man made god. Not to be believed by Christians.

 

[tinytim]

That stupid link you gave was about a man made god of the underworld... certainly not to be believed by any that calls themselves Christian.

Christ hath no communion with Belial.

Your sources are going to present lies since they come from a man made god.

Here SFIC look at this...

Beer predates the incarnation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer

 

[Magnetic Poles]

More foolish statements, Helen?

No, she is using SFIC logic, which bears no relationship to any actual logic.

 

[tinytim]

Statements like these is why people don't take you seriously SFIC...

 

[Helen]

Apparently you either do not know what context is or do not like it yourself. Reading the Scripture in context shows God disapproves of fermented beverage.

Standing, we've been around that bush before. I exegeted the entire set of passages before and after your 'do not look upon the wine' rant and you paid no attention to it at all. You are claiming that wine is not wine if it is spoken of positively in the Bible, that beer was unknown, despite the fact that the Bible mentions it.....as I just told someone in a PM, I'm sitting here because I have been shoveling decomposed granite all day, resurfacing paddock areas and pathways and I'm tired. But you are adding a bit of interest to the exhaustion. And, wow, I'm not even having any wine!

 

[saturneptune]

Brewing grain beverages is as old as agriculture.

I'll drink to that.

 

[JerryL]

I' will believe the Word oif God rather than your internet sources, Helen. The Word of God nowhere says beer was around in Bible times.

But ancient document show that beer is thousands of years old.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

And statements like "God allows drinking in moderation" is why those who the Holy Spirit has revealed the truth to cannot take you seriously when it comes to the subject of alcoholic beverages.