Women preachers

[evangelist6589]

I agree that everyone should do evangelism. The Way of the Master, in my opinion, is one of the few organizations who have thought through this process.

My biggest reservations with women street "preachers" probably has less to do with them evangelizing and more to do with the name itself. In our culture some perceive "preachers" to almost always mean something done within a church context and they lack discernment in the variances of using this word. Thus, they see "preacher" and they make not categorical distinctions between what a Pastor does on Sunday Morning and what every Christian does when sharing the Gospel.

Therefore, I would agree women can be a "street preacher", but I am uncertain that some can discern the difference in the use of terms.

Hmm good point. Maybe I can say women evangelists that can open air? Pastor preached a great message today on evangelism. I need to step up to the plate and continue to send text messages and encourage people to do evangelism. Most will just "ignore me" which is sad, but regardless I will continue to try and get soul winners.

 

[evangelist6589]

Your not making any sense here, what does the use of the law have to do with preaching on the street?

You should use the law when you do open air, use tracts, or do one on one. No matter the method of evangelism using the law is the best way to bring conviction.

 

[JesusFan]

The Bible doesn't forbid women to preach anywhere. They can preach in a pulpit or a street corner.

The CBMW is not going to give you a reliable answer on this issue.

Woman atre NOT allowed/permitted per the Bible to be in "head authority" in the local church, so cannot teach as a Pastor, at least as the senior pastor in the church!

Can be deaconess, teach in say Sunday schools, alsobe involved in praise and worship etc...

Would see per OP. women are allowed to do street evagelism, as being witneses unto jesus...

just not permitted to have "formal" authorityin local church!

 

[freeatlast]

Woman atre NOT allowed/permitted per the Bible to be in "head authority" in the local church, so cannot teach as a Pastor, at least as the senior pastor in the church!

Can be deaconess, teach in say Sunday schools, alsobe involved in praise and worship etc...

Would see per OP. women are allowed to do street evagelism, as being witneses unto jesus...

just not permitted to have "formal" authorityin local church!

WRONG AGAIN! A woman cannot have any authority in leading the church or teaching men and if deacons of a church hold any authority over men a woman cannot hold the office.

 

[Don]

WRONG AGAIN! A woman cannot have any authority in leading the church or teaching men and if deacons of a church hold any authority over men a woman cannot hold the office.

In regards to in the church, I agree. In general, I have to ask: Wasn't Apollos taught by a woman? Didn't Paul tell the Romans to assist a woman in any business she had need of?

 

[freeatlast]

In regards to in the church, I agree. In general, I have to ask: Wasn't Apollos taught by a woman? Didn't Paul tell the Romans to assist a woman in any business she had need of?

Here is what we know.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
So we know she was not usurping authority or teaching men in the church.

 

[JesusFan]

WRONG AGAIN! A woman cannot have any authority in leading the church or teaching men and if deacons of a church hold any authority over men a woman cannot hold the office.

What position did Phoebe hold in the early Church than?

 

[freeatlast]

What position did Phoebe hold in the early Church than?

She was a deacon, but the position did not violate the command of a woman not having authority over men as it would in most baptist churches. Most baptist churches use their deacons as a plac eof authority as they set over policy and help run the church. A woman cannot do that even if called a deacon.

 

[jaigner]

Woman atre NOT allowed/permitted per the Bible to be in "head authority" in the local church, so cannot teach as a Pastor, at least as the senior pastor in the church!

just not permitted to have "formal" authorityin local church!

The Pauline directives here were given to a specific people at a specific time for their ad hoc purpose. These are not intended to be normative regulations for the duration of time. Women can preach from a pulpit or a street corner, and God bless those who have the courage to do what he calls them to.

WRONG AGAIN! A woman cannot have any authority in leading the church or teaching men and if deacons of a church hold any authority over men a woman cannot hold the office.

(Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance begins playing) Thus saith boundtolast, but not any credible scholars.

Here is what we know.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
So we know she was not usurping authority or teaching men in the church.

We know that Paul said this to an early congregation. We should be asking what this means to us today instead of superimposing ad hoc directives over every historical context.

 

[Jerome]

The focus you had is in trying to somehow link Spurgeon with women Pastors/Church Preachers.

evangelist6589, please take my posts as they are intended, rather than as they are being twisted. Thank you.

 

[freeatlast]

The Pauline directives here were given to a specific people at a specific time for their ad hoc purpose. These are not intended to be normative regulations for the duration of time. Women can preach from a pulpit or a street corner, and God bless those who have the courage to do what he calls them to.



(Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance begins playing) Thus saith boundtolast, but not any credible scholars.



We know that Paul said this to an early congregation. We should be asking what this means to us today instead of superimposing ad hoc directives over every historical context.

Not according to the bible. Now if you follow some other book and some other lord then that is different.

 

[jaigner]

Not according to the bible. Now if you follow some other book and some other lord then that is different.

It's sad you would say this.

 

[freeatlast]

It's sad you would say this.

The bible clearly sates no woman can teach or have authority over a man. You believe a woman can. So I ask you what is left to believe except you are using another book and following someone other then the One in the bible. So let me ask you. Are you a member of a Baptist church?

 

[evangelist6589]

Woman atre NOT allowed/permitted per the Bible to be in "head authority" in the local church, so cannot teach as a Pastor, at least as the senior pastor in the church!

Can be deaconess, teach in say Sunday schools, alsobe involved in praise and worship etc...

Would see per OP. women are allowed to do street evagelism, as being witneses unto jesus...

just not permitted to have "formal" authorityin local church!

I disagree that women can teach adult sunday school. Where did you get that in the Bible?

 

[JesusFan]

I disagree that women can teach adult sunday school. Where did you get that in the Bible?

We have children church, so was referencing they would be teaching the kids!

 

[Jerome]

Charles Spurgeon, "All At It":

"so were there no exclusions on account of sex. Men and women were to spread abroad the knowledge of Jesus. We read that, “As for Saul, he made havoc of the Church, entering into every house and haling men and women committing them to prison. Therefore they that were scattered abroad” (and these must have been men and woman) “went everywhere preaching the Word.” There are many ways in which women can fittingly proclaim the Word of the Lord and in some of these they can proclaim it more efficiently than men. There are minds that will be attracted by the tender, plaintive, winning manner in which the sister in Christ expresses herself."

 

[annsni]

In regards to in the church, I agree. In general, I have to ask: Wasn't Apollos taught by a woman? Didn't Paul tell the Romans to assist a woman in any business she had need of?

No, Apollos wasn't ever taught by a woman. He was taught by a couple - in private - big difference. It would be like my husband and myself teaching a young student of the Scriptures. There is no authority in that.

 

[jaigner]

The bible clearly sates no woman can teach or have authority over a man. You believe a woman can. So I ask you what is left to believe except you are using another book and following someone other then the One in the bible. So let me ask you. Are you a member of a Baptist church?

This is a wonderful example of a poor, nuda scriptura interpretation. Baptists are finally opening their eyes to this and, hopefully in my lifetime, will come to embrace women following the Spirit's leading in their lives.

 

[JesusFan]

This is a wonderful example of a poor, nuda scriptura interpretation. Baptists are finally opening their eyes to this and, hopefully in my lifetime, will come to embrace women following the Spirit's leading in their lives.

Have to decide here IF Apostle paul was JSUT wriiting specific guidelinals to just historical situation, or IF was meant to be guidelines for all times!

 

[evangelist6589]

Have to decide here IF Apostle paul was JSUT wriiting specific guidelinals to just historical situation, or IF was meant to be guidelines for all times!

Watch out the theological liberals, and the seeker friendly types like to re-interpret the Bible to fit into their man made doctrines! No one who reads the Bible for all its worth can come away from it thinking that women can teach and preach in the church.