Women preachers

[Jerome]

Look how far FAL has come:

Sept. 2010:

if they take the position that a woman is intened to be deacons then you rebel against the Lord. . . .what we are seeing today is not the true church. You make that clear in trying to defend women as deacons and not holding to sound doctrine.

Nov. 2010

Jim you have to know that only the very most liberal translations use the word "deacon" [in reference to Phoebe]

Dec. 2010:

The word when applied to a woman would simply be translated server.

Jan. 2011:

[Women] cannot hold any office of deacon

Yada yada yada. . .

Now fast forward to Nov. 2011:

Next I do agree that some women can be a deacon.

Dec. 2011 (this thread):

[What position did Phoebe hold?] She was a deacon

What a difference a year on the BB makes!:thumbs:

 

[jaigner]

deny the doctrines of hell bell
Holds to Universalism Bell
denies traditional hunman sexuality views/soft on jesus alone saves/social agenda Tony C

I would respond to this if it made any sense, but it's not even coherent.

 

[jaigner]

What a difference a year on the BB makes!:thumbs:

LOL I bet by May he'll be preaching moral influence atonement. He may even wear short pants.

 

[Jerome]

social agenda Tony C

Having a social agenda is "liberal"?

Doesn't CBMW have a social agenda?

 

[mandym]

I would respond to this if it made any sense, but it's not even coherent.

Oh well let me clear it up for you:

Rob bell denies the doctrines of hell or a literal wrath of God. In fact his position is that social injustice is hell. This is a theological left position and completely heretical. If there is no wrath of God then there is no need for the cross.

Rob Bell believes in universalism. He believes even Ghandi is in heaven per his own words.

Tony Campolo believes in the social gospel which, again, is a theological left position.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Having a social agenda is "liberal"?

Nice to know that Jesus had a social agenda.

Remember the last judgment scene in Matthew. All about social justice and a social agenda. Theological correctness is not mentioned and <gasp> neither is Calvinism.

Told the rich young ruler to give to the poor.

Praised the Samaritan, not for his beliefs, but for his social agenda, helping the man by the side of the road.

Fed the 5000, big social agenda there.


Jesus preached mercy and forgiveness. Many here would call that left wing by board members who believe in mercy and forgiveness. But mercy, forgiveness and grace are cardinal virtues of Christ's teachings.

 

[jaigner]

Tony Campolo believes in the social gospel which, again, is a theological left position.

Not exactly in the sense of classic Protestant liberalism does. Campolo believes in the salvific act of Christ and the need for a personal relationship. The "social" element of it is, and he's correct about this, that the Bible is clear that Christ-followers are to care for the poor, oppressed and marginalized.

 

[mandym]

Not exactly in the sense of classic Protestant liberalism does. Campolo believes in the salvific act of Christ and the need for a personal relationship. The "social" element of it is, and he's correct about this, that the Bible is clear that Christ-followers are to care for the poor, oppressed and marginalized.

You can call it what you want but it is true liberalism.

 

[jaigner]

You can call it what you want but it is true liberalism.

A true theological liberal doesn't believe in the personal element of faith as you, I and Campolo do. They don't believe in the inspiration and infallibility of the Bible as you, I and Campolo do.

But you obviously know more about everything than I do, and think very highly of your own opinion, so I guess I should just shut up and wallow in my stupid, liberal brine.