Would God command men to do something they were unable to do?

[Jarthur001]

You never answered that. In no way have you answered that. You say did Abraham lie? Well we all did thing before being saved. It is a simple question and God has already given me His answer and I am asking yours.

1.Gen 26:5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

and your answer is?

 

[Brother Bob]

My answer is easy, I believe God. If God said he kept them I believe Him James. You don't think I would question God do you?

 

[Jarthur001]

My answer is easy, I believe God. If God said he kept them I believe Him James. You don't think I would question God do you?

did God say this?
10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

[Brother Bob]

Yep................

 

[reformedbeliever]

Yep................

Did Abraham lie Bob?

 

[Jarthur001]

Yep................

was this a lie?

11And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon:

12Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive.

13Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.

14And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair.

 

[Brother Bob]

Did Abraham lie Bob?

If you know of Abraham lying then you can tell me but that don't change a thing you and I both did things before being saved or at least I did.

God didn't say He kept them all his life.

1.Gen 26:5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

I can't believe you would question whether God told the truth or not.

 

[Jarthur001]

Yep................

was this to the church or the unsaved?
10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

[Jarthur001]

If you know of Abraham lying then you can tell me but that don't change a thing you and I both did things before being saved or at least I did.

Bob,

Are you saying Abraham was sinless after he believed?

 

[reformedbeliever]

If you know of Abraham lying then you can tell me but that don't change a thing you and I both did things before being saved or at least I did.

Then did Abraham keep all God's commands all the days he lived?

 

[El_Guero]

Bob,

. . . It was to the non-calvinists . . .

. . . the calvinists would be predestined to never sin again . . .

. . . Or they would be predestined to eternity in Hell. . .

Just trying to help ya' out - ya' do seem to be a lil' bit outnumbered.

:thumbs:

was this to the church or the unsaved?
10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

[Brother Bob]

Bob,

. . . It was to the non-calvinists . . .

. . . the calvinists would be predestined to never sin again . . .

. . . Or they would be predestined to eternity in Hell. . .

Just trying to help ya' out - ya' do seem to be a lil' bit outnumbered.

:thumbs:

Thanks I need all the help I can get. They are more waiting in the wings to come in.

 

[reformedbeliever]

Bob,

. . . It was to the non-calvinists . . .

. . . the calvinists would be predestined to never sin again . . .

. . . Or they would be predestined to eternity in Hell. . .

Just trying to help ya' out - ya' do seem to be a lil' bit outnumbered.

:thumbs:

Are calvinists the only ones predestined? I thought predestination was a biblical word. Do you jest with the bible Wayne?

 

[Jarthur001]

Thanks I need all the help I can get. They are more waiting in the wings to come in.

still waiting???

Heb 11
8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

Hebrew 11:8 says Abraham was a believer before this happen...

11And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon:

12Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive.

13Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.

14And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair.

 

[Brother Bob]

Bob,

Are you saying Abraham was sinless after he believed?

No, but already told you there is a sin and a sin unto death. You are arguing with God James. God is the one who said Abraham kept them.

Then did Abraham keep all God's commands all the days he lived?

No, I am saying what God said.

1.Gen 26:5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws

 

[Jarthur001]

Bob,

. . . It was to the non-calvinists . . .

. . . the calvinists would be predestined to never sin again . . .

. . . Or they would be predestined to eternity in Hell. . .

Just trying to help ya' out - ya' do seem to be a lil' bit outnumbered.

:thumbs:

Well now El Guero.....here we go.

Is Bob right? Were there two sinless men? Come now...please answer. Don't let your non-Calvinist doctrine get in the way.

 

[Jarthur001]

No, but already told you there is a sin and a sin unto death. You are arguing with God James. God is the one who said Abraham kept them.


No, I am saying what God said.

1.Gen 26:5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws

How many kinds of sins do we have? The book of James says if you lie...you also are guilty of murder. Is murder a sin?

Christ said if you look on a lady the wrong way...its the same as sleeping with her.

If you HATE its the same as murder

If you know to do right...whatever right may be....if you do not do it...it is sin

 

[Brother Bob]

Is Bob right? Were there two sinless men? Come now...please answer. Don't let your non-Calvinist doctrine get in the way.

James; I told you at least twice that Abraham was not sinless and you still choose to continuing telling this false statement about me. I don't want to call you a liar so please refrain from saying that I said there were two sinnless men.

How many kinds of sins do we have? James says if you lie...you also are guilty of murder. Is murder a sin?

God will alway be true and let every other man a be a liar that say different than what he says.

1.Gen 26:5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws

Paul was guilty of holding the clothes and giving the order while they murdered Stephen and he was forgiven.

 

[reformedbeliever]

James; I told you at least twice that Abraham was not sinless and you still choose to continuing telling this false statement about me. I don't want to call you a liar so please refrain from saying that I said there were two sinnless men.

If you want to start another topic.... feel free. Back to the OP ok?

 

[Brother Bob]

If you want to start another topic.... feel free. Back to the OP ok?

You tell that to James please and if I have said anything wrong then you can address me otherwise keep quiet.