Would You Let a Known Lesbian Perform at Your Church???

[Allelujah77]

I would not allow one who is gay/ lesbian to perform/ be in ministry at my church.

 

[Jerome]

What in the world are these churches thinking?

First Baptist Church, Greenville, South Carolina, welcomes San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus

 

[Squire Robertsson]

No.

 

[TCassidy]

I would not allow one who is gay/ lesbian to perform/ be in ministry at my church.

You may have already done so and didn't know it.

I would not knowingly allow such a person to do so in a church I pastored.

 

[annsni]

What in the world are these churches thinking?

First Baptist Church, Greenville, South Carolina, welcomes San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus

"“Let’s have that conversation, “ Verdugo said. “I went to a Baptist church and I hold dear the teachings of Jesus. He came from a place of love, and we’re coming from a place of love, wanting to leave a whole lot of love in our wake.”"


Wow....

 

[agedman]

Why would such a person want to come to my church, much less to perform?

First, the church is not a performance hall, nor is the assembly to be gathering that they be entertained.

Second, the deceitful works and workers of darkness should never be welcomed.

We welcome any who desire to worship, who are in need.

But to have anyone red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, or violet come to pleasure the assembly can farm their goodies at some other venue.

The sole agenda of the church is to worship, gain wisdom and knowledge of Christ, help the feeble, and prepare the believers to carry the gospel to all men.

No place for entertainment or amusement.

 

[HankD]

One day (Soon perhaps) there may very well be a legal consequence for not allowing LGBTq to "minister" in one's church - It would constitute a hate crime.

HankD

 

[Reynolds]

That is My Opinion, too....



.... but, the three of them see it differently. It made me realize how messed up the world is when it comes to what God will accept, and not accept.

Your point is right on, and similar to what the San Diego pastor was trying to tell them. Of course, Haggard seems to be the self-appointed know-it-all, when it comes to homosexual sin and the church.:sleep:

Honestly I do not expect Larry King, Ted Haggard, or a Lesbian singer to be right about anything involving doctrine.

 

[Bro. James]

Such performances are allowed only on center stage-left--next to the bongos. Since when did church become entertainment?

The human flesh loves to be entertained--even in so-called churches.

Will The Lord find The Faith(ten pistin) when He returns? Lk. 18:8.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Reynolds]

Reminds me of a classic sermon, "Feeding sheep or entertaining Goats?".

 

[Yeshua1]

I normally don't watch Larry King, but, last night (4/23) was a night with very little on television, so I stopped by his show, and stayed through the end as Larry, Ted Haggard, and this lesbian singer/artist, jumped all over the pastor from San Diego.

The issue was her being a lesbian, and claiming to be a Christian too... Of course Haggard and King really jumped down the theological throat of this San Diego pastor, and even though this pastor was quoting Scripture - that supported his points - he was no match for the three of them.

Of course, one must not forget that King is in the middle of his seventh divorce (and might be trying to make his soul feel like God is not judging him). Than there's Haggard, who was outed, and removed from his huge Denver church and the NAE, which he headed at that time (I'm sure he's still trying to make sure that God justifies his sin). Then there was the singer, defending her right to be both a lesbian, and the right to be a Christian (and like King and Haggard, she was fighting to soothe any guilt she may have over leaving the narrow path, for the wider road to Hell. Which is MHO).

Man, that was a debate that I would not want to be involved in. So, I wondered what you folks would have to say if you were in this position on the Larry King Show. Would you take the singer's side, or, would you agree with the attempts of the pastor, who claims he was simply reaching out to a believer who lost their way in their walk with the Lord???

Well, this is your opportunity to speak up. Would you let a confirmed lesbian come to your church and minister in music and share her testimony???

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

Check out the story at:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/interviews/2010/jenniferknapp-apr10.html
OR,
Video News - CNN​

ONLY if her testimony was once lesbian, but now saved by Jesus and one no longer!

 

[The Biblicist]

In the name of "love" God is being blasphemed among professing people of God over this subject. It is an unbiblical love that places the well being and feelings of man above the honor and glory of God. The Greatest commandment is not love your neighbor as yourself, but to love God above all else including your neighbor. What is missing today is a righteous indignation against this sloppy agape that magnifies man above God all in the name of love.

We live in an era where people have the gall to defend the idea of "Christian homosexual" churches, pastors, etc., which shows the depth of the depravity of so-called "Christians" who even entertain such an abomination in the sight of God.

anyone, and I mean anyone who still considers themselves to be identified as a homosexual should not even be a member of the church much less be invited to participate in any worship service. God's honor should be our first concern rather than offending sinners. Call sinners to repentance first, then after God has done his TRANSFORMATION work in their hearts then embrace them as Christian but NOT BEFORE.

First, not all sins are equal. There are sins in the Old Testament that called for stoning and there are sins that did not call for that. There are sins that do not involve others and there are sins that do involve others and are regarded worse in God's sight. There are sins that characterize the depravity of a people to such low point that God brings special wrath upon as in Sodom and Gormorah and that characterizes the lowest depravity of a people in such a way that Christ can say, "as Sodom and Gormorah" so shall it be at the coming of the Son of man.

There ought to be a righteous indignation against the homosexual movement today and anyone who publicly identifies with it as God considers this sin to be the lowest depth of rebellion that calls for special wrath and yet some "Christians" in the name of "love" defend what God repeatedly and openly condemns in the strongest terms possible.

 

[Bro. James]

I would not allow one who is gay/ lesbian to perform/ be in ministry at my church.

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Did we have this problem before we started paying preachers and piano players?

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Baptist Believer]

Did we have this problem before we started paying preachers and piano players?

There's always been a problem with persons wanting to gain an audience before the congregations. Too many preachers, singers, politicians, petty tyrants, etc. are all seeking a place and an audience. Compensation for labor isn't really the issue. The issue is not having a heart for God and God's people.

 

[Bro. James]

Filthy lucre and respect of persons have destroyed many churches. These are related to: the love of money, the root of all evil.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[HankD]

In the name of "love" God is being blasphemed among professing people of God over this subject. It is an unbiblical love that places the well being and feelings of man above the honor and glory of God. The Greatest commandment is not love your neighbor as yourself, but to love God above all else including your neighbor. What is missing today is a righteous indignation against this sloppy agape that magnifies man above God all in the name of love.

We live in an era where people have the gall to defend the idea of "Christian homosexual" churches, pastors, etc., which shows the depth of the depravity of so-called "Christians" who even entertain such an abomination in the sight of God.

anyone, and I mean anyone who still considers themselves to be identified as a homosexual should not even be a member of the church much less be invited to participate in any worship service. God's honor should be our first concern rather than offending sinners. Call sinners to repentance first, then after God has done his TRANSFORMATION work in their hearts then embrace them as Christian but NOT BEFORE.

First, not all sins are equal. There are sins in the Old Testament that called for stoning and there are sins that did not call for that. There are sins that do not involve others and there are sins that do involve others and are regarded worse in God's sight. There are sins that characterize the depravity of a people to such low point that God brings special wrath upon as in Sodom and Gormorah and that characterizes the lowest depravity of a people in such a way that Christ can say, "as Sodom and Gormorah" so shall it be at the coming of the Son of man.

There ought to be a righteous indignation against the homosexual movement today and anyone who publicly identifies with it as God considers this sin to be the lowest depth of rebellion that calls for special wrath and yet some "Christians" in the name of "love" defend what God repeatedly and openly condemns in the strongest terms possible.

i believe you are overlooking the calling of God which often times (as it did in me) is gradual like the dawn of earthly morning.

I sought the truth in churches and thank the LORD they did not have your attitude towards sinners.


HankD

 

[Baptist Believer]

Filthy lucre and respect of persons have destroyed many churches. These are related to: the love of money, the root of all evil.

Sure, but "the love of money" is the root of all kinds of evil, not a financially-supported ministry.

"Respect of persons" and contempt for persons have destroyed many churches, but that's a problem with the hearts of people, not acknowledgement of someone's gifts and callings.

There is a fundamental lack of character and courage in Christian churches, even among the primitive brothers. Having atypical polity is not the same thing as having godly character or possessing courage.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Six Hour Warning
This thread will be closed sometime after 4 PM Pacific.

 

[Bro. James]

Foot tapping praise/worship and ear tickling sermons can get expensive.

Many are seriously conformed to the world--it is getting worse. Some churches have become LLCs and other sorts of business. What did Jesus do to the money changers? He called the elders a den of thieves and worse; they were worshipping in vain the commandments of men.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Jerome]

What in the world are these churches thinking?

First Baptist Church, Greenville, South Carolina, welcomes San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus

Wow....

And what about Camelback Bible Church's (pastor serves on The Gospel Coalition Council with Mark Dever and Al Mohler) longtime hosting of "Boys to Men," which brings together boy choirs to sing and learn alongside "adult male" groups such as the Phoenix Metropolitan Men's Chorus "a voice of the LGBTQ community"?

Boys to Men - Camelback Bible Church

Sixth Consecutive Boys to Men Festival at Camelback Bible Church

This year, Marc Gaston, Artistic Director of the Phoenix Metropolitan Men’s Chorus, and Gary Steinkamp, Director of A Cappella Syndicate, will join Orpheus Artistic Director Brook Larson in leading the combined mass choir of more than 200 singers.

In addition to the Orpheus Male Chorus, other community groups participating at the 2015 Boys to Men are Spirit of Phoenix, men of Phoenix Chorale, Metropolitan Men’s Chorus, A Cappella Syndicate and men of Phoenix Children’s Choir.

Concerts from the last two years: