you have replaced with ‘advice and consent’ with ‘search and destroy.'”

[Revmitchell]

“This confirmation process has become a national disgrace,” he asserted. “The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced with ‘advice and consent’ with ‘search and destroy.'”

Kavanaugh: ‘This Confirmation Process Has Become A National Disgrace’

 

[Revmitchell]

Graham called the entire process an “unethical sham” and slammed Democrats for sitting on the sexual assault allegations for weeks after they first received them.

WATCH:




“What you want to do is destroy this guy’s life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020,” Graham said to Senate Judiciary Democrats. “You’ve said that. Not me. You’ve got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said ‘hello’ because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you’ve done to this guy.”

“This is the most unethical sham since I’ve been in politics,” Graham asserted, fuming with anger.

“Boy, you all want power,” Graham continued. “God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham — that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford. None. She’s as much of a victim as you are.”

Lindsey Graham Explodes On Senate Committee Over Kavanaugh Process

 

[Salty]

They have to destroy him - otherwise Roe vs Wade maybe overturned.

 

[SovereignGrace]

They have to destroy him - otherwise Roe vs Wade maybe overturned.

I don’t know if it’s overturned or not. President Trump stated he wanted it brought down to state level where each state can decide for themselves if they want abortions performed in that state. It’s not removing it, but limiting its scope, imo.

 

[Salty]

I don’t know if it’s overturned or not. President Trump stated he wanted it brought down to state level where each state can decide for themselves if they want abortions performed in that state. It’s not removing it, but limiting its scope, imo.

Very true - States like NY and Calif would remain pro-death (aka abortion)
but many States/Commonwealths would protect the life of the soon-to-be-born.
At least it is a start

 

[Reynolds]

I don’t know if it’s overturned or not. President Trump stated he wanted it brought down to state level where each state can decide for themselves if they want abortions performed in that state. It’s not removing it, but limiting its scope, imo.

It depends on how its handled. A simple overturn would send it to the states. A personhood determination would give "fetus" 14 Ammendment protection.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I don’t know if it’s overturned or not. President Trump stated he wanted it brought down to state level where each state can decide for themselves if they want abortions performed in that state. It’s not removing it, but limiting its scope, imo.

Don't tell anybody else, but that's what overturning it means. Before Roe vs Wade, it was a matter for each state to decide. Back then, the majority of states ruled it illegal. Some states are poised to do so again.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

It depends on how its handled. A simple overturn would send it to the states. A personhood determination would give "fetus" 14 Ammendment protection.

The 14th amendment applies to those "born or naturalized in the [US]" and makes them citizens. Wouldn't this amendment need a further amendment to achieve what you are describing? Or would they somehow be naturalized through personhood before being born?

They may need to first fix the understanding of "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Otherwise this might further complicate the illegal alien crisis.

Also, general personhood could create issues in many other legal situations in society.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

“This confirmation process has become a national disgrace,” he asserted. “The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process, but you have replaced with ‘advice and consent’ with ‘search and destroy.'”

Kavanaugh: ‘This Confirmation Process Has Become A National Disgrace’

Graham called the entire process an “unethical sham” and slammed Democrats for sitting on the sexual assault allegations for weeks after they first received them.

“What you want to do is destroy this guy’s life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020,” Graham said to Senate Judiciary Democrats. “You’ve said that. Not me. You’ve got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said ‘hello’ because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you’ve done to this guy.”

“This is the most unethical sham since I’ve been in politics,” Graham asserted, fuming with anger.

“Boy, you all want power,” Graham continued. “God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham — that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford. None. She’s as much of a victim as you are.”

Lindsey Graham Explodes On Senate Committee Over Kavanaugh Process

Kavanaugh and Graham both called it right, and rightly so. Too bad more of the Republicans didn't have the guts and the gumption to call out the extreme hypocrisy and hatred of the Democrats here.

 

[Salty]

The 14th amendment applies to those "born or naturalized in the [US]" and makes them citizens. Wouldn't this amendment need a further amendment to achieve what you are describing? Or would they somehow be naturalized through personhood before being born? .

Totally correct - in fact - my understanding is that this was the reasoning for allowing abortion - as the child had not yet been born.

Also, general personhood could create issues in many other legal situations in society.

Not sure I understand this - is there an example you could give ?

 

[Adonia]

Totally correct - in fact - my understanding is that this was the reasoning for allowing abortion - as the child had not yet been born.

My understanding of the Federal abortion legality decision was the "right of privacy" argument and that the state could not tell a woman what she can and cannot do. This of course came out of nowhere as we get told by the government all the time what we can or cannot do in a legal sense.

A woman cannot prostitute herself in 49 of the 50 states nor can a woman legally ingest certain drugs either and laws barring such actions legally stand. This was nothing less than the Supreme Court making a law, an action that rightly belongs to the legislature, be it at the Federal level or the individual state level. The Supreme Court acting according to the Federal Constitution should have simply refused to take up the Roe v Wade case.

 

[HankD]

NO! The leftist Party of Death knows that law can be introduced by congress to make abortion MURDER and sent to the SCOTUS therefore overturning Roe v. Wade even to the state level.

Abortion would then have to be dealt with as MURDER in every state.

A conservative SCOTUS justice is the DNC greatest fear of this action and they are fighting for their "life " and will try every evil trick in the book to stop it.

I hope and pray that if Kavanaugh is toppled Amy Barrett has the stomach for the smear campaign (if Trump chooses her).

I don't think the Party of Death has a prayer of winning congress after this obvious display of what/who they really are.

1) The General public has seen their outrageous slander attack.
2) Actually bigger than 1 - a red wave is developing - the lethargic giant has been awakened, lets hope there are no more turncoats..

 

[HankD]

Search and Destroy it will be that IMO.

At least two or three things will happen. lets make it three.

1) Avenatti (or someone) will discover more Kavanaugh "victims".
2) A screech will come out from under the abortionists rock - "unfair! we need MORE time!!".
3) More turncoat cowards will make themselves obvious. Therefore the Kavanaugh senatorial vote will not happen.

Pray that Amy Barrett (or whoever) has the courage to face the next onslaught of slander and libel.

 

[Reynolds]

The 14th amendment applies to those "born or naturalized in the [US]" and makes them citizens. Wouldn't this amendment need a further amendment to achieve what you are describing? Or would they somehow be naturalized through personhood before being born?

They may need to first fix the understanding of "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof." Otherwise this might further complicate the illegal alien crisis.

Also, general personhood could create issues in many other legal situations in society.

The clause " nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Applies to any "person." It does not say citizen. The 14th both granted birth citizenship to all born here and it extended full protection of law to all who are here.

 

[HankD]

OK, there will always be the option that if in the case that abortion IN THE USA is elevated to the act of murder then a US citizen mother could get a passport, go to a country that allows abortion and have her baby aborted.

 

[Revmitchell]

This thread is not about abortion

 

[HankD]

This thread is not about abortion

I believe it is connected. The radical left knows that Kavanaugh is pro-life and that's why they are seeking to destroy and topple him.

 

[just-want-peace]

If it's:
1) illogical
2) immoral
3) unethical
4) anti-Christian
5) anti-USA and in many cases;
6) illegal
Then you can be pretty certain that it's part of the DIM platform.
Pity, but I do find it VERY hard to understand how any person claiming to be a Christian can support any part of the dim agenda, especially after the rape of justice they openly displayed at this hearing!?!?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

This thread is not about abortion

OK. His phrase was apt, "from advise and consent to search and destroy," but more accurate would be "to besmirch and destroy," as they do not look for and find but invent and twist.

Perhaps it is a pity the same cannot be done to them, but how would you ruin the reputation of those with such low moral standards for themselves and among their own base? They have repeatedly excused and shielded their own who have been justly accused of far, far worse worse.

 

[HankD]

OK. His phrase was apt, "from advise and consent to search and destroy," but more accurate would be "to besmirch and destroy," as they do not look for and find but invent and twist.

Perhaps it is a pity the same cannot be done to them, but how would you ruin the reputation of those with such low moral standards for themselves and among their own base? They have repeatedly excused and shielded their own who have been justly accused of far, far worse worse.

There are scandals on the left - bigtime.