5 point Gillinist
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No, you're not a Hyles listener. Ok. What about the rest of my question?
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No, you're not a Hyles listener. Ok. What about the rest of my question?
Salvation bear fruit.No, you're not a Hyles listener. Ok. What about the rest of my question?
You don't think salvation results in fruit? You don't think the indwelling Holy Spirit transforms men ever increasingly to be more like Christ?Salvation bear fruit.
If led by Spirit and in his word. But someone can be saved and not have fruits.You don't think salvation results in fruit? You don't think the indwelling Holy Spirit transforms men ever increasingly to be more like Christ?
Where does the bible say that?If led by Spirit and in his word. But someone can be saved and not have fruits.
Salvation is only by sole faith in gospel.Where does the bible say that?
Nothing can change that, fruits and change life do not affect.
See Gene on YT.What are your thoughts on James 2?
Yeah. That is what I said. I then said salvation bears' fruit; the indwelling Holy Spirit received at salvation bears fruit through us. I didn't say that we bear fruit in order to be justified, I said those justified do bear fruit. Your answer has nothing to do with my original statement.Salvation is only by sole faith in gospel.
Nothing can change that, fruits and change life do not affect.
Yeah. That is what I said. I then said salvation bears' fruit; the indwelling Holy Spirit received at salvation bears fruit through us. I didn't say that we bear fruit in order to be justified, I said those justified do bear fruit. Your answer has nothing to do with my original statement.
Ok. Again. Where does the bible say that believers won't bear fruit? If you deny that the bible (even the KJV) says believers do bear fruit, then you are the one denying the scripture.No, salvation dosen't mean will bear fruit.
See Gene on YT.
What Jesus proclaimed was finished in John 19:30 was completed before John 19:28, per, . . . . Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . . .
Yes.Gene Kim teaches that the book of James is written to Jews in the future after the rapture takes place. Is that what you believe, and have you considered an alternate interpretation?
Yes.
Please show me in scripture the phrase “free will choice” to be saved?Your god is unable to give a free will choice, and still be sovereign?
Please show me Scripture that says God cannot give free choice and still be sovereign.
No, only salvation wise.So you are saying that the book of James is irrelevant to Christians today. Where in the text does it indicate that it’s only for a future application and have most Christians been wasting their time studying it for the last 2,000 years?