History of Calvin

Huh?

Obviously you have never set foot in a Baptist church...

 

A needed corrective for those who attempt to pervert history.

 

Herman Selderhuis

The above is true history --not the twisting of it for one's own ends.

 

Yep, and that is exactly what I have been trying to do as well.

 

A Pilgrim's Life

Hear, hear!

 

Did you really just "hear, hear" your own post?

 

He quotes himself more than he quotes anyone else on the board.

 

Selderhuis :A Pilgrim's Life

I don't know how he got hanging confused with beheading --but otherwise the above stands in stark contrast to the false claims by a number here on the BB.

 

I was affirming the words of Herman Selderhuis.

 

This was said in reply to Bro. James. But the message needs to sound in the ears of a number of folks here who are NOT hearing.

 

Talk to DHK about that. He thinks hyper-Calvinism is running wild in Presbyterianism and especially in the Dutch Reformed assemblies. (chuckle)

 

EW&F: it seems that lately you have drifted significantly from what you originally held to in this thread from three years ago. Am I mistaken? Or do you wish to distance yourself from a lot of your remarks in this thread?

 

The Dutch Reformed Churches still exist, though they have amalgamated with other Presbyterians. One can still find congregations that are still primarily made up of more than 90% Dutch immigrants and hold to the old traditions.
They are as Calvinistic as any "Reformed" church I am acquainted with if not more so. This quote is as good as an example as any:

This is from the "First Christian Reformed Church" which defines itself as a "Dutch Reformed" church.

Overtime they have become more liberal and definitely ecumenical.

In another part of their website they write:

Coming out of Rome and going back to Rome. Sad isn't it?
But they are Reformed, nevertheless.

http://firstcrcedmonton.ca/about-us/what-we-believe
http://www.bethelchurch.ca/resources.html

 

Reformation: putting a new spin on some bad religion.

The reformed reformed have the same problem--man made religion is still exactly that: man and his good works.

The daughters are going back to their mother--per her rules of ecumenism. See Vatican II.

The Bride of Christ is getting ready for the marriage supper. She has never participated in Rome, Wittenburg or Geneva; throw in Nauvoo for good measure.

Are we ready?

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

Bro. James

 

I refer you to this simple little statement from the EuropeanLeaders website regarding Calvin's usurping of governmental powers in Geneva, quoted from the reference at the end of the statement:

Further, I offer this from a doctoral candidate at Calvin Theological Seminary, one Mark J. Larson (recognize the name?).John Calvin And Genevan Presbyterianism

Further, the ancient French phrase from Calvin's own biography Larson cites roughly translates (using Babelfish which only translates modern French):Or so you might hear how Calvin is applied: first input he protested point to accept the burden of ceste Church, otherwise what it y eust ordered consistory and discipline ecclesiastical. In other words, he ordered the seigneury, or feudal council of Geneva to follow his lead.

And finally, the italicized portion of that enclosed quote from Larson is a footnote to this very lengthy paper Larson wrote detailing how Calvin usurped the powers of the Genevan Council and essentially dictated via an unofficial theocracy how the city-state would be run.

If this isn't enough, I can post more. You are welcome to continue to deny Calvin had anything to do with running the city-state of Geneva if you wish, but you will clearly be wrong to do so.