Is God through with Isreal, based on this?

Depends IF one holds that God did NOT reject the Jewish nation/peoples and applied all of their OT promises towards the Church, which for today to those holding that view is modern day Isreal to God would be the Church!

I personally hold to a dispy view on how God views this, as He still has plans forisreal today, and for the Church also!

 

Jeremiah 31 has essentially been fulfilled. Jeremiah 31:31-34 is seen in Hebrews 8 as being fulfilled in Jesus Christ.

 

Partially fulfilled to the Church now, as we are under the New Covenant relationship, but when Jesus returns again to earth, than Isreal alive at that time will receive their aspect of this fulfillment, and so ALL will be under the bless promised here by God!

 

I believe the body of Christ is Israel. There is no longer Jew or Gentile in God's eyes but a spiritual Jew of the heart, a heart that is circumcised. I also think the nation Israel is still blessed and has a role in the end, and will be grafted back into the tree. I'm careful about reading the prophets because Jesus said the law and prophets were until John the Baptist, since then the kingdom is preached.

 

This is poetic language in the Hebrew which brings about an if... then clause. This is not a "when... then" clause. Thus, the answer is basically that this is relaying a theology about God, not a happening that will occur.

 

It's pretty much all over folks. This is the kingdom now, of peace, justice, and righteousness reigning, and eternal in nature. I saw a lion and a lamb laying together too. It's beautiful isn't it?


He's coming back literally, and physically as He promised. Don't be deceived.

:wavey:

 

The twelve thousand from each tribe of Israel mentioned in Revelation cannot be the church. These are believers, but they are also physical descendants of Abraham.

Jesus did not come in 70 A.D., when Jesus returns it will be to defend and deliver Israel, not destroy it.

Zech 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

 

The 12,000 is a symbolic number and does not need to be physical Israel, but some who do have this as physical also see Revelation as a historic account, not necessarily a future event.
Jesus did not come in 70 A.D.

 

I also saw a lion laying with a lamb. Unfortunately the lamb was laying in the lion's mouth.

 

I believe there will be a revival and general incoming of the Jews into the Church. As for the old law system, it's gone forever:

.... Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever....Mt 21:19

21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18

 

Well, in the OT, Israel was never about the nation of Israel that we have now, but rather, the descendents of Jacob(Israel). Israel now is the church.

 

If the church is the redefined people of God, i.e. Israel, then there is no problem. The concept of "israel" is more or less simply a reference to the covenant people of God. As pointed out, the context is all about the new covenant which has been inaugarated w/ Jesus.

 

Wolf and a lamb... learn your Bible!

 

Well, it is a wolf, not a lion.

I saw a lion eating straw too. :love2:

 

Better yet, believe your Bible.

 

If your idea of learning the bible includes your arrogance, I will pass.

I know I don't possess the great biblical knowledge you have, but I do the best I can. Also, I misspeak sometimes, unlike you who obviously never makes a mistake.

 

Never ever do I make a misteak

the point was (which you missed)

You were being snarky w/ your comment "I saw a lion laying with a lamb." You were trying to make a point through your humor. That was fine. But if this is your method of doing so, then the humor is lost if you don't even quote correctly the passage you are citing.