Why would God punish people that have no chance of salvation?

If you've read it you should know what it says, it really needs no explanation, it's quite straightforward and to the point. It answers your question.

 

You can't answer it either. From now on perhaps all Calvinists should just say "read John 6" when asked to explain their beliefs.

 

Wrong. It's in Romans 1. Read it.

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

 

Jesus died physically...are you implying He committed personal sin?

Spiritual death is separation due to sin, as was the case with Adam. He died the day he ate the fruit (not physically, spiritually)

Again...HUGE problem here with Christ's death.

 

You're almost correct here, but still off, which reminds me of other groups that have a few things correct, but many other things incorrect.

Nothing in the Scriptures support what you've said here, thanks for clarifying and qualifying this erroneous teaching and philosophy of yours by stating "I believe..." You should rather get your teaching from Scriptures, yet i am beginning to believe from your posts that you're having some trouble with proper interpretation.

The part you got a "little" right? Well, your first line, (which I've highlighted for you). We actually do go to hell for our physical sins, but you left out part of it; there are also sins of the spirit. Each will send a person to hell.

The rest of what you've said is false teaching not supported by the Scriptures. People are already on their way to hell before they've rejected Christ, and they all deserve it.

According to your fallacious doctrine, everyone will go to heaven, unless they reject Jesus. So quit telling them. They'll all be just fine.

 

If I can? :laugh:

As WD said, it's very straightforward. I don't know how you can miss it.

God has revealed Himself through creation and the conscience (the Law written on men's hearts). Therefore, man is without excuse. This is why there is really no such thing as an atheist. ALL men know there is a creator because the bible says they do. But some choose to reject that revelation and thereby their hearts are hardened toward God.

BUT (the greatest word in the bible btw), Jesus said that to him who wants to know God, God will give more light, or revelation of Himself. If he rejects or suppresses this light, even what he has will be taken away. This goes perfectly with what Paul is saying in Romans 1. As a man continually suppresses God's revelation, his heart becomes harder, until God turns him over to his sin and so even the general revelation that God has given to him will be gone and he will be lost in his sin forever.

This is just basic bible 101.

 

You just contradicted what you posted above. At first you said Our bodies die because of the sins we commit during life

If our bodies die due to personal sin we commit that means Jesus committed personal sin as His body died. Would you say He would not have died a physical death had He not went to the cross? Then you would have problems of Scripture stating He was human in every manner we are.

In addition, what "personal sin" did the aborted fetus or miscarried fetus commit?

 

Absolutely.

There is not one person who can say "I never heard". EVERY-one hears.

Praise God for His provision!

 

No. There have been billions that have died without ever hearing the gospel of Christ. How do you think they heard?

 

No that is incorrect. Many people end up in hell who never hear of Jesus so as to have mindset to reject Him. His grace does not have to be formally rejected to end up in hell.

 

I happen to believe Scripture, and that man is already on, and going to hell prior to "rejecting" Christ. That is where all the lost will go, whether they've rejected Him or not (the unsaved). Man is lost now, not some at some future date.

Your teaching is exactly what you stated yourself it is what you believe. It's not Scriptural, you're in error.

Here is how to practice your belief: Quit preaching. Everyone will be fine. No need to take a chance on them rejecting Jesus and sending them to hell. Leave them alone and let them go to heaven already. That way heaven will be full of homos, adulterers, murderers, fornicators, thieves, drunkards and such like. Shhhh. Don't tell them, they'll be OK. :thumbsup:

Oh, and by the way, Jesus never wasted His time. Also, there is much God has given that He full well knew no man can keep, and that only His Son could known as the Law.

Just because it doesn't fit your finite reason, it doesn't make it incorrect, nor does God have to fit into the little box you want Him in.

 

No, you've already answered for them. As long as they don't reject Jesus, they're fine and will go to heaven.

Wrong again on line two above. Before they rejected it they were already going there in the first place.

 

Finally an answer!