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So is it your position that an adulteress should go left unchecked? Again what is your point?

 

This statement:

Is contradictory to this statement:

And very sad to boot. I wonder what took you so long to get to the point. I do not believe it is safe to assume that we must use what God did then as an example of what we should do with this woman now.

In speaking of sexual immorality Paul wrote that the church was to turn over unrepentant believers to Satan I Cor 5:5.

By thw ay thanks for the cat and mouse game. I love chasing down the less than obvious point made by people who are afraid to get to the point.

 

I already answered that.

What you were wrong about is that anyone should read your mind.

 

A natural thing to wonder these things, but we aren't the ones to see the hearts. Probably best if I keep my wondering to myself. My tendency is to 'think out loud' too much.

 

...and precisely why you don't get it.....both David and Moses were not "dismissed" as you claim...they SUFFERED CONSEQUENCES!!! for their actions....you seem to think that this woman should not. There might often be differences between the natural or earthly consequences for our actions and willful direct disobedience to God for transgressions of his law that He holds us accountable for, in case you haven't realized that yet. Admit it....you brought them up, thinking it somehow proved a point you wanted to make, and you get exactly the opposite. They both repented and this woman has not apparently...in fact she is filing a lawsuit. And if you think that comparisons...in the eyes of God, as he is revealed in Scripture.....make signifigant distinctions between sins like adultery, and sins like murder, I suggest you read the Bible...Start from Genesis 1:1....go to the end...your Hamartiology leaves much to be desired.

 

Very good post!!!

I would add a few neglected details that this thread has not seemed to display.

Dr. Ron Taylor was the headmaster of a Dallas Christian school back some decades ago (in the 70's), he was also a principle of public schools and assistant superintendent of Garland ISD. He retired from the public school system and sometime later was asked to headmaster the private school in Rockwall. He is a man of outstanding character. His wife's name is Elizabeth and during the Vietnam war his fellow soldiers were taken back that their sargent would actually receive letters from "Elizabeth Taylor." :love2:

I won't speak about the young lady who messed up her life. It isn't wise to defend her or hold her up for shame.

What I will state is that the actions by the school were just and legal.

The school is not directly affiliated with any church or denomination.

 

Oops. The recent Supreme Court case hinged on the fact that the teacher had been designated by the Lutheran congregation as an ordained minister to teach in its school.

 

I get the sense that you desire to find some excuse or erasure of sin in favor of the young lady.

Would that be accurate?

 

I agree with you Sissy. In sports, when athletes sign these "megabucks" contracts, most, if not all, have stipulations that they can not do certain things. If they get hurt while doing this, it can void the contract out. This scenario here is no different, IMO. She broke the stipulation(moral clause), and she voided her contract herself.

 

Less signifigant?....no, of course not, and I think you know I don't think that. Attempting to make comparisons as you are, however is invalid...What I am saying is that you imply/seem to believe that adultery or fornication is less signifigant, it is not..it is neither/nor.
As far as God is concerned: As far as His condemnation of sin, the penalty for sin, and the extent to which His holiness is personally offended anyway.
As far as mankind is concerned.....no, but it is not mankind's personal likes/dislikes, preferences or point of view about which is better or worse respectively. Man thinks murder to be inherently worse than fornication, God does not. The entire world suffers under a vicious curse because 1 man ate a fruit God told him not to eat. You will notice that your David for example, when pleading for forgiveness, after power-raping Bathsheba and murdering her husband says in the Psalm "against THEE and THEE ONLY have I sinned..."

Furthermore.....David, again, deals with the above crime with the death of his child....He conducts a census, however, and 70 some odd thousand Israelites die in a plague as punishment....Do you think God is offended in precisely the same way for sin as we are? In our mind that seems unfair....To God...perfectly legit. Considering, then....do you think this woman wants to roll the dice and find out what God thinks appropriate consequences should be? My suggestion for her would be cut your losses, and go work at some godless government school loaded with those who could care less and will probably pay her far better anyway.

 

They have made the correct choice. It is too bad that her morality did not meet her profession and she is still in rebellion about the consequences she has brought on herself.

 

They did the right thing. I hope they stick with their decision and do not back peddle because of pressure.

 

I would say that you are viewing this from the lense of a local Church body in lieu of simply that of a school. You are quite right that, speaking of a Chuch, it would be most incumbent to seek to lead her to repentance and restoration...as a school, however, they have a different mission as it were...Their goal is primarily to help the KIDS!! grow, not the teacher. Your heart is definitely in the right place, and you are correct that a Church shouldn't simply turn their back on her, but there are two different missions involved here.

There is truth to this, but at the same time...I think we (as Christians) too often assume that people..especially non-believers are being intellectually honest with themselves...Remember how you were prior to becoming a believer??? Any excuse you could lay ahold of to take the "blame" as it were for continuing in sin was shifted away from oneself and towards the object of your discontent...namely...Christianity. This is often, I think, little more than the realization by non-believers (normally under some conviction) that this is an excuse that has worked before....and it will work again. Note how avante garde it has become to call all believers "hypocrites" As if it had anything to do with the content and truth of the message they were preaching, and as if it actually were the case that the vast bulk of believers were in fact "hypocrites". Much of this accusation will go away if we stop buying it from them and agreeing with them when they make it

 

I would first point out that by her own words she is not repentant. She claims she has a different interpretation. Second by going to court she shows she is still in disregard for the word of God by suing them over this instead of going through church channels as commanded in 1Cor.

That being said as to your question about how to deal with her outside the contract issue I would hope that they offered her counseling and prayer with an opportunity to repent, and they may very well have done that, we simply do not know.