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Thank you for explaining your contradictory statements.

 

What chores, specifically, are defined in the Bible as masculine or feminine? I'm not talking about generic stuff like "providing for one's household." Where in scripture are we told only men should do certain "manly" tasks and women should stick to "feminine" talks? In my home, it doesn't matter if you're male or female, you still help do dishes, take out the trash, cut the grass, etc. We work together. When my girls are old enough, they will learn to change a flat tire or fix a leaky sink.

So who gets to determine whether or not he is "seeking" to be what God wants him to be? You? Me? Again, you're judging the heart based on how the person dresses or walks.

 

And let us all remember that the OP is chief among those that rail against IFB churches, because they supposedly tell people how to act.

Kind of funny, isn't it?

 

What I am interested in is why Luke brought this topic up. Are you having a disagreement with someone?

 

:laugh: This is funny to me...

 

She is a very large boned woman.....but I have a question for you. What activity...pardon me, MANLY activity could a woman do that would turn normal sized female shoulders into manly shoulders??? Even if I lifted weights for hours each day there's no possible way my shoulders could EVER come close to the size of her shoulders.

 

Really? Where in scripture does it tell us to take care how we appear to the world? Christ ate without washing his and cared not who saw Him and answered them when they complained. Where is His commandment to care how we appear to the world?

While you are looking that up in 1st Opinions, show me the scripture that says a man shouldn't be small and puny and a woman shouldn't be tall and broad. Cause I thinketh you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

Brother Luke,

I think that these questions you are posing are loaded, and no answer will suffice(not you, but some will agree with what I am about to post, and others will lambaste me), but I do not think it's okay for men to act effeminate. Men need to act like men, and women like women. That being said, I am not their judge, and I will leave that up to Him. I know two men, both of which are married, and they act VERY effiminate. I am quite sure they both have children(one has five girls), and one is a deacon in a FWB church(the one with the five kids). Like I said, it bothers me that they act this way, but that is between them and their Maker. However, they should act like men. I'm just saying..........

 

I'm surprised this thread has lived to see its fifth page.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

The sadness continues.

 

It's just like a Deterministic Calvinist to hold men accountable for something they have no control over. :tear:

Does a man control the size and pitch of his vocal chords? Does he control his height or bone structure? Can he help if he has a lisp?

Does talking deeper, walking bow legged and moving more rigidly really make a man more "manly" in your eyes? I can understand the point of addressing men's choices which reflect their masculinity, but you have seemed to go beyond this.



(Plus, if a man doesn't have LFW then he couldn't have done otherwise anyway and clearly God ordained him to be effeminate, so I'm not sure why you would bother trying to correct it. )

 

I shared several quotes from this passage that bothered me and they were ignored. Seems you would just rather stick to your own script.

And your statement that builders in the bible were men is incorrect. Try reading through Nehemiah sometime.

 

I don't appreciate the insinuation that I don't read the Bible, Luke. Can you not post in a single thread without arrogantly insulting other people?

The Proverbs 31 woman specifically "strengthened her arms" and worked willingly with her hands. She considered property and purchased it. Ruth labored in the fields, gleaning grain. Rebekah drew water for camels--all of which required great strength to accomplish. David played the harp and sang songs, and was small compared to King Saul. Instead of using heavy armor, he used a sling and stone to kill Goliath. Yet God chose David to be King of Israel over all of his "manly man" brothers.