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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Thomas Helwys, Feb 4, 2013.

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  1. salzer mtn

    salzer mtn Well-Known Member

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    I've talked with a lot of lost people that drink and all of them stated, you have to get used to the taste of beer when you first start drinking. Over time the taste gets better. I ask them, why start drinking something that don't taste good? The answer was, You don't start drinking for the taste but the effect it has on you. I smelt of a can of open beer one time when i was a kid and it smelt like horse urine, it looks like horse urine. My question is, if what the lost people said was true about the taste, why did you people start drinking beer for ?
     
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    I've talked with a lot of lost people that drink and all of them stated, you have to get used to the taste of coffee when you first start drinking. Over time the taste gets better. I ask them, why start drinking something that don't taste good? The answer was, You don't start drinking for the taste but the effect it has on you. I smelt of a can of open coffee grounds one time when i was a kid and it smelt like horse urine, it looks like horse s#*t. My question is, if what the lost people said was true about the taste, why did you people start drinking coffee for ?
     
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  3. salzer mtn

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    I'm glad you ask, because i never started drinking coffee because of the taste. Now answer mine.
     
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    Anything I've had to drink that was yummy, I continued to drink. Other things I have had to drink were gross and I never had it again.

    I've never thought beer tasted gross. Or scotch. Or wine. Or a good Seabreeze. Or a good margharita.
     
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    Ann, by your own words on page 3 if you drink over one drink it gives you a migraine headache, then what is the point of your continued drinking ?
     
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    I HATED coffee for years but drank it for two reasons: It was culturally acceptable for adults to drink it and since I was an adult, I guess I should be drinking it (aka peer pressure). Also, I was drinking it for it's drug effect of keeping me awake artificially when I needed to stay up.
     
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    I didn't start drinking beer because of the taste. I didn't start eating broccoli because of the taste. I didn't start drinking coffee because of the taste. I didn't start eating squash because of the taste. I didn't start eating chili because of the taste. etc. etc.

    Like 99% of learned behavior I guess I started because other people were doing it.

    Now answer my question:

    If God forbids us to drink alcohol, why does He accept it as a drink offering and why will He serve it to us at a great feast?

    Numbers 28:7-8 God will accept an drink offering of fermented wine.
    Isaiah 25:6 God will serve us fermented wine at a great feast.
     
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    Ann, how do you reconcile your post 164 with your post 166 ? Other things i have had to drink were gross and i never had it again. I hated coffee for years but drank it for two reasons.
     
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    Other people, what other people? Lost people? Lost people drink to get drunk.
     
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    In the margin of my bible in Isaiah 25:6 it say's the feast was a spiritual feast and spiritual food.
     
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    In the first post, I was addressing alcohol directly because I was answering a post of yours (you see it in that post).

    Coffee is not the only thing I continue to drink even though I originally thought it gross but I still think the other things I drink are gross. Robitussin is one of them, Nyquil is another. Sometimes you just have to drink gross stuff.
     
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    What Bible is that???????

    Matthew Henry:

    From Jamieson, Fausett & Brown
     
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    Again, you are trying to compare drinking an occasional wine or beer, which was my original position, to getting drunk or alcoholism. Nobody here is advocating that. Are you incapable of debating from the original premise? Are you instead given to the absurd?

    However, if you don't think what you eat ultimately affects others, stuff fries, pork chops, and Big Macs in your face on a regular basis, drop dead of a heart attack in your fifties or die of cancer at that age, and tell me if that wouldn't affect your family and friends.
     
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    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
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    Maybe in your neck of the woods. I know plenty of people that don't drink to get drunk, lost or saved.
     
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    Thompson Chain-Reference Bible
     
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    Funny, isn't it, how no one seems to believe that gluttony destroys one's witness.
     
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    I see, so take the Bible literally whenever possible, except when it conflicts with your own personal theology.

    So, the drink offering mentioned in Numbers 28---God was telling the Israelites to symbolically pour out a fermented drink? Really? :laugh:
     
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    That's only if you drink domestic beers...
     
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    All i can say is we will agree to disagree. No one can convince me a lost man don't drink to get drunk. No one can convince me if anyone drinks, lost or saved they drink it only because it taste good. I could go to proverbs and find plenty of scripture to give you reasons why i don't drink but i won't, it would be a waste of time. Good day.
     
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