Ok...this made me laugh! I answered them...you just do not like my anwers...She did the same thing with "faith, hope, love, these three."
She did the same thing with "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." "Baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
She ignores the bible and says of those who believe the bible that we are in "unbelief."
She is obviously a deceiver and a charlatan. If she is actually saved we are commanded to have no fellowship with her but rather to turn her over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh.
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Another lie! Reading the other thread NOT ONE WORD concerning the clear teaching of 1 Corinthians that tongues would cease, and that at the time Paul wrote 1 Corinthians only the three gifts, faith, hope, and love, were being given.
How utterly sad that such lies come from one who claims the Name of Christ. "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks." "All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Rev 21:8.
Your lack of fruit is showing!
Just keep lying. Everybody here know what you are.
Funny, I came here to discuss scripture with christian people! But instead of discussing/debating it turns personal when I do not agree with there interpretation!
I have discussed the Word of God with unsaved people that had more love diplayed than on this board!
Now, if you would like to discuss scripture about the apostles..feel free! But calling me a liar because I do not agree with you is uncalled for!
Thomas Helwys
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You are a liar, and that is why I cannot have a rational, civil discussion with you. You are a charlatan. I have answered your posts MANY times, and I have used scripture MANY times to show you how you are wrong. The proof of this is in the reading of my responses to you. You can't deal with the truth of what I have posted, so you resort to lies like the one you just told, and then you start multiple thread all about the same thing, using the same scriptures that you have used before, and which your interpretation of them has been refuted time and again by me and others.
Look, sister, you can't say with any amount of truth that I can't defend my beliefs. I have studied, formally and informally, more than you ever have or will.
Well, give youself a pat on the back for all your studing!
Most of your post in any of my threads is to riducule me personally! When you post something and I return with questions concerning your stand you say I am misrepresenting you! I ask you questions to better understand what you post! YOU SIR ARE EASILY OFFENDED!
No, you have been clamoring for answering and challenging others for answers to Eph.4:11-13. In fact you have been stating your position rather assertively, such as: "Have we all come to a unity of the faith?" NO!
So I took the entire passage, clause by clause, explained it, and showed you how your stated positions were wrong, and how they should be properly interpreted. Since then I haven't heard a peep from you. You were thoroughly refuted and so you kept your silence. You never answered back. The least you could do is say: OK, I was wrong in my interpretation.
If you weren't wrong then you would have an answer for the post wouldn't you. But your silence indicates you have no answer.
Are your feelings hurt because I did not answer your post to your satisfaction? Why address something when I have already stated my position, which by the way contradicts yours!
I would only be repeating what I have said in previous post...
I was not silent! I have spoken and refuted every post! If you want the answers to that particular post go back and read what I posted....the answers are there (in previous post)! What I found with debating with you is that we have to repeat our stand over and over.
Go look back in the thread. I challenge you. You never touched that post, except to deny it with a one-liner. Where is your thought-out response. Give me the URL or the post #. Or admit that you are lying.
Thomas Helwys
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And, see, there is another lie. I have posted scripture after scripture and explained it, and yet you continue to misrepresent my posts.
And you, madam, are easily deceived. And I don't need to put that in capital letters, as it is evident to all here.
I am still waiting for more than a silly one-liner for the scripture I posted that proves she is wrong on the sign gifts and wrong on baptism.
But I am not holding my breath waiting for an answer. We all know that if she answers honestly (fat chance!) she would have to admit her error. Not likely to happen.
Yes, she is. And, unfortunately, she is willingly deceived.
She and her ilk are exactly why God forbids women from having teaching/preaching/leadership positions in the church.
1 Timothy 2:12-14 "And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression."
She is not only deceived, but also a deceiver of others. As the bible plainly says she has fallen into transgression.
Thomas Helwys
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Yes, she is. And, unfortunately, she is willingly deceived.
She and her ilk are exactly why God forbids women from having teaching/preaching/leadership positions in the church.
1 Timothy 2:12-14 "And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression."
She is not only deceived, but also a deceiver of others. As the bible plainly says she has fallen into transgression.
I disagree with you there, as error is expounded by men, as well. You don't have to look any further than the mainline churches to see that, and to the RC hierarchy.
Thomas Helwys
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When someone habitually lies, twists another's words, and misrepresents what they have said, it is not a personal attack to call them a liar. Rather, it is simply a fact. But facts are things you have trouble with.
If you had answered my post, you would know why your answer doesn't even make sense.
I will say it again so you can understand it this way.
My church is in "complete unity of the faith," too bad about yours.
The verse in question is inclusive not exclusive. It explains why women teach false doctrine but does not exclude men from their ranks. Paul deals with false teachers who are men, and their motives, in chapters 4-5.