Featured Moderation is what helps- not teetotalism

We press charges...hopefully the guy has money.:godisgood:

 

Now why would ya... coming from the clan meetings & all id expect you just hang or castrate those who ya don't like:tongue3:

 

No funnier than being suggested that Im part of the Mafia...when my Italian Grandfather chose to work in the coal mines rather than being a thug.

 

Oh great, Luke is using the "I know a lot of black people, some of them are friends" defense.

 

Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word. And those with ears to hear will hear what the Spirit sayeth unto the churches.

But the fact that God gives men varying degrees of faith is indisputable. All brothers have faith enough to enter in, but not all have faith by which they can move mountains.

Use the word persuaded if you will. Some are not fully persuaded that they may eat meat that has been offered to idols or otherwise deemed unclean. Doubts persist, and no amount of preaching moves them.

 

You gave me one little quote from one report. I gave you two valid links, one of which was an extensive study. I could give you many more. There has been much research done on this topic. There is nothing good about tobacco of any kind. Researching the topic does make me an expert. When one reads enough on any one subject; studies enough about it they become "an expert" in that field. You refuse to face facts.

Again you want to justify your vices no matter what the cost.
At least Spurgeon had the good sense to give up pipe smoking when he realized how wrong it was.

I said nothing about society. I quoted to you a report which gave solid reasons why a person should give up smoking--all smoking (including pipes), and including medical reasons. How do you attribute that to society? You are a hypocrite. You expect me to accept your report based on medical science but you don't want to accept mine based on the same science.

Good. But there are many that are pushing for the legalization of Marijuana giving the very reason you give--moderation. They contend that it is far easier and safer to control marijuana intake than it is alcohol intake. So why is moderation right in alcohol but wrong in marijuana?

 

DHC...don't you close these threads after 20 pages?

 

This is not an admission of your mischaracterization of what I'm saying, I just choose not argue it at this point.

What I have shown is what the Scriptures actually say: weak in faith and doubting the cleanliness of all food, not ignorant of the argument or teaching thereof, just not able to receive it.

Alcoholics and gluttons don't even come into view. So it's not about being careful around those who are given to much wine.

There's more. If the thread isn't closed I'll move on with more verses.

 

Do you think this guy passed the breathalyzer test?

 

Guess it depends if he chose to drink alcohol before the test or not.

 

It should have been closed after it became evident that it could not be proven biblically that drinking in moderation is sinful.

 

Those within this thread who attempted to prove it is sin cannot prove it via Scripture and used their own words instead in an attempt to do so, all the while thinking they're sola scriptura.

Well, guess what, they're not. They're not sola scriptura on this issue, nor are they such on many other Biblical truths they struggle with and fight against.

 

Yup...btw & off topic...rereading ML-J Sermon on the Mount. Didn't you say you read it?