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Ah yes... so you did.

So no instruments at all? Ever? Seriously or joking?

Preference or you think that should be normative?

 

I've calmed down since last night. I'm sorry I snapped.

I thought I had made it clear in previous threads that I listen to some secular music, and seeing as I made my music tastes clear...well.

Part of what angered me, Jordan, was that you were accusing others--my brothers and sisters in Christ. That's just not okay in my book, and that was what drew out my initial ire. Normally people can say whatever they want about me and I don't care, but in this case you caught me off guard and you hit a sore spot.


My dad was one of the most spiritual people I knew. He had a lot of Bible knowledge and wisdom, and I admired that. He endured to the end, despite a fiery trial of living his last decade bedridden--those years were turbulent, and I think he suffered from depression a lot.
Despite his staunch stand against Christian rock, I caught him listening to the Beatles. He had a YouTube playlist dedicated to them. He watched TV programs my mom clicked her tongue at, and I often watched them with him. He enjoyed crime shows, including Law and Order, NCIS , and Monk.
His views on music or anything else never seemed to change, but he did get less strict and judge mental (the word he himself used) as he got older.

Does the fact that he listened to and enjoyed the Beatles or watched things others maybe wouldn't have approved of make him any less of a Christ follower? He produced fruit; he was a witness where ever he went, and people told us after he died that his life inspired them.

 

I had another one when my steak was gone, while listening to Eric Clapton, and watching the Kings game. Life is good.

 

'Unplugged' has been one of my favorite CDs for years.

Acapella only in the worship service for me, singing those old traditional instructional hymns.

 

It dont get much better than that!:love2:

 

Looking like a Kings/Rangers Cup finals.

 

I meant @ service......my tastes in music are extremely broad....Classical to Rap.

I like these two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHV6BjuQOZQ

 

I see. I think it's nice once in a while, but not all the time IMO.

That was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:love2:

I now have new art music! Thanks! :thumbsup:

EDIT: Just listened to their rendition of O, Come Emmanuel. Amazing. Completely amazing.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyfkzdPo5NY

 

Tell me. If I were to listen to, say...
Bicycle Built for Two
Whistle While You Work
The Holly and the Ivy

...while doing housework, would you consider that more acceptable?

Yet these songs aren't anymore spiritual than '70s and '80s music such as Devo's Whip It, Cars' Shake It Up, or Weird Al Yankovic's Dare to be Stupid.

Why is one set okay despite being not a tad spiritual, but the other isn't? Is it the buzz word "modern" or "contemporary"?
The first set was as worldly for it's time as the second set.


Jordan, don't think I haven't struggled with this in the past. I have. Don't think I haven't prayed about it. I have. Don't think I didn't think to consider how it was affecting my spirit. I have.

Jordan, I know a motorcyclist with tattoos, who looks like a typical biker, who is more spiritual and does more for God and witnesses more than half the congregation at the IFB church I grew up in.
You judge people by their fruit, not their entertainment choices or appearance.

 

Pornography is clearly and demonstrably a sin and can be shown as such in scripture with little room for argument. Listening to music isn't, you won't find that anywhere in the Bible.

Jordan, the Bible speaks of liberty. Romans 14 is one of the best known passages about this.

Scripture instructs the brother allowing himself more freedom to be careful not to offend another brother or allow himself to be a stumbling block--but it also says that no one is to judge the brother's liberty. There are inevitably areas which Christians will disagree with each other on--scripture calls for respect on both sides.

 

Does that include when we take the music of wicked classic composers and use them in our hymns?

And are you claiming that all music that is not 'spiritual' is sin?

 

I just can't sit here and let this fly.

Do you love going online with your computer and having conversations?
The internet is of the world. If you use the internet you love the world.

Do you read newspapers or online news sites?
The news reports on events going on in the world. If you read the news, you love the world. How does reading the news prove the perfect and acceptable will of God? If you are interested in the news, according to the verse you posted from James, you are an enemy of God.

Do you like ice cream?
Ice cream is a "thing in the world".
etc. etc. etc.

And BTW, you haven't addressed preachinjesus' point about Paul quoting from secular poets in Acts 17. Was Paul wrong to quote a worldly poet?

 

Again, does traditional music from culture such as Bicycle Built for Two?

Does The Waltons?

Does Leave it to Beaver?

Does Pacman?

Does Bugs Bunny?

Does going for a ride in a convertible with the top down and feeling the wind in your hair?

Jordan, by your definition of this verse, almost nothing would be acceptable. Do you avoid literally anything that cannot be directly traced back to God or scripture? Forgive me for being so bold, but you're being ridiculous.


Jordan, the verse does not say I can't enjoy things in moderation. The problem is when they become an idol. And anything can become an idol. My pets could become an idol, if they were all I ever thought about and I spent so much time with them that I neglected prayer and Bible reading.

 

Of course not. Secular music does not teach and admonish others in the way of the Lord. Neither does employment in most jobs, going to the grocery store, going to most colleges, eating, sleeping, participating in sports, knitting, fishing, doing crosswords, gardening, photography, redecorating your home, changing the oil in your car, etc. etc..

Listening to music that is not explicitly Christian, so long as it's not anti-Christian, or does not promote sin, is no sin.