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You'll probably never know this side of heavenThanks for the kind words brother Hank but I fear I have failed in my mission in life!-:smilewinkgrin:
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I'm not sure what you mean Rev.Just wow! I cannot understand what kind of standard would lead one to believe that. Certainly not one that would fly in academic circles.
I'm not sure what you mean Rev.
So many dispensationalists responded so well to OR they are probably strengthened in their position or even adopted the dispensational point of view from a neutral position is what I meant.
HankD
I don't know, maybe.So you think that Darby is the one that created the concept of dispensations in Theological circles?
God bless.
I don't know, maybe.
The Early Church Fathers knew of the Rapture by the its Latin name (Rapto, rapturo) in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, the Tribulation (aka Jacob's Trouble), and the Millennium (aka the Chiliad but I don't recall ever reading about all three in a singular document.
Lewis Sperry Chafer formalized the concept in the 1940's in his 8 Volume Systematic Theology out of Dallas Theological Seminary.
HankD
At my age the LORD could take me out at any time, but then HE could any of us. But like the Apostle Paul I will keep up the good fight!
Yes, youth is no guarantee of longevity.
You and I have had some differences, but I hope you have some good years left.
And I hope I do, too.
Jerome should have provided the source so the entire post could have been read.
I did link to your many contradictory posts. Why are you falsely claiming that I didn't?
I did link to your many contradictory posts. Why are you falsely claiming that I didn't?
Well its a set of 7 volumes of theology books and 1 index book if that is what you mean by "media", then yes that it what I am saying.So it is a "formalized media presentation" that marks the beginning of a Doctrine, is that what you are saying?
God bless.
Well its a set of 7 volumes of theology books and 1 index book if that is what you mean by "media", then yes that it what I am saying.
I can't say for sure it was the fist definitive work on dispensationalism but it could be. I don't know for sure.
You seem surprised, if so, why?
Thanks
HankD
Yes OR, we know. what is the iteration of that statement?And Chafer insisted that the Church was an intercalation in GOD's program for national/ethnic Israel!
Actually only 999 but hang around. Two more won't take long!:tongue3:Yes OR, we know. what is the iteration of that statement?
About 1001?
Just messin' with you.
HankD
Originally Posted by Darrell C View Post
So it is a "formalized media presentation" that marks the beginning of a Doctrine, is that what you are saying?
God bless.
Well its a set of 7 volumes of theology books and 1 index book if that is what you mean by "media", then yes that it what I am saying.
I can't say for sure it was the fist definitive work on dispensationalism but it could be. I don't know for sure.
You seem surprised, if so, why?
Thanks
HankD
The word "dispensation" as a theological term is a NT word. So yes.Thought that might be the case.
So seeing that is the case...then we know when the Doctrine began: when it was first published, which would be the First Century writings of the Bible Writers.
Yes or no?
Not sure what your point is so I can only respond that what you say seems to be the case. It was for all the isms Trinitarianism (which we all support), calvinism, fundamentalism, dispensationalism...etcDispensationalists do not have the honor of originating Scripture, only compiling their views into a logical (at least they hope) framework designed to reconcile inconsistencies that have arisen through history, all of which were the result of the exact same thing.
No surprise, really, just trying to ask questions that lead to a general agreement. I think regardless of whether we agree about anything else, what we can agree on is that we know when Scripture originated, and that any doctrine must stand the test of Scripture.
Like calvinism for instance?When the focus, as you have done, as well as the OPs incessant reiteration of his view, becomes the works of men instead of the Scriptures themselves, something is lost.
Yes, it is in harmony but sometimes that harmony is difficult to discern hard to be understood (or so says scripture itself).Everything that is recorded in Scripture is in harmony, and sound doctrine will be in harmony with Scripture. Doctrine arises from that Record, rather than trying to harmonize Scripture to a Theology System. And it is just my belief that this is what most people do.
Originally Posted by Darrell C View Post
Thought that might be the case.
So seeing that is the case...then we know when the Doctrine began: when it was first published, which would be the First Century writings of the Bible Writers.
Yes or no?
The word "dispensation" as a theological term is a NT word. So yes.
1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
The word is oikonomia Lidell Scott, UBS, Strong's : Mangement of a household
Dispensationalists do not have the honor of originating Scripture, only compiling their views into a logical (at least they hope) framework designed to reconcile inconsistencies that have arisen through history, all of which were the result of the exact same thing.
Not sure what your point is so I can only respond that what you say seems to be the case. It was for all the isms Trinitarianism (which we all support), calvinism, fundamentalism, dispensationalism...etc
No surprise, really, just trying to ask questions that lead to a general agreement. I think regardless of whether we agree about anything else, what we can agree on is that we know when Scripture originated, and that any doctrine must stand the test of Scripture.
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When the focus, as you have done, as well as the OPs incessant reiteration of his view, becomes the works of men instead of the Scriptures themselves, something is lost.
Like calvinism for instance?
Everything that is recorded in Scripture is in harmony, and sound doctrine will be in harmony with Scripture. Doctrine arises from that Record, rather than trying to harmonize Scripture to a Theology System. And it is just my belief that this is what most people do.
Yes, it is in harmony but sometimes that harmony is difficult to discern hard to be understood (or so says scripture itself).
HankD