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The post indulged a bit of comedy out of the statement of "role play" and made a bit of lightheartedness of one playing roles as an actor upon a stage.

The typical roles of a drama includes both villain and hero and I honestly thought the post would be a fun read for everyone.

Would it have made the humor more palatable had I switched the roles?

Would that have still violated the Scriptures you offered?

Or are you opposed to any type of humor?

There is this reactionary condition on the BB that must turn what is even an attempt of humor into an opportunity to mock a view in which one doesn't agree and claim some superiority - even attempt to use Scripture (inappropriately in most cases) to bolster the claim.

 

Yes that is correct.

That is why I believe the word "decision" should not be an automatic anti-calvinistic shibboleth in the Calvin camp.

Talk to them and you may find in many cases a build up of emotions prior to the "decision". While regeneration is sudden (and cause a sudden "decision"), Conviction/reproval seems to be a lingering long time condition in some folks (as it was in me).


Thanks
HankD (Mugwump)

 

I would have to play the role of either because I am neither.
Jesus said that we would know folks by their fruit.

Is someone confesses Christ as Savior (God come in the flesh) and is trusting Him as savior then that along with the fruit of the Spirit being demonstrated I personally have no problem.

1 Corinthians 1
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

Neither Calvin or Arius was crucified for us.

HankD

 

agedman, Sorry that my statement came across as comedic.
That was not my intention.

My bad.

HankD

 

I don't see the calvinsitic folks as ever getting away from the conviction / reproval self loathing of their sinfulness before the holiness of God until they pass into glory. Generally speaking, they have one word for God, "awesome," and such a view of sovereignty as to not allow themselves to consider growth, maturity, and work as other than the righteousness of God living through them.

The world "decision" is mostly viewed by that camp as something in which the others use in attempts to bolster the elements such as freedom of choice, prevenient (preceding) grace, free will, and so forth.

So, when the word is used, there is an immediate assumption made, and the assumption is usually correct.

In my own study, I have concluded that conviction of the heart cannot happen without the seed of regeneration already implanted. That this regeneration brings conviction that will result in Godly sorrow which is much different that than what is expressed in feelings of sorrow that the world can emotionally generate.

Therefore the "decision" is an overt manifestation of what has already taken place. The person expresses belief as a result of already having that change within their very core (a new nature) that causes them to believe. Something that cannot be done if one has to express belief before they have received that which is the foundation to the core of belief.

Those that would contend that first one must accept or in some manner acquire by making a "decision" must also have in construct some provision by God to allow that "decision" to be made. Such construct is not found anywhere in the Scriptures, yet is commonly taught and labeled as prevenient or preceding grace. It is a human imposition of some ether superimposed upon the Scriptures of which there is no foundation, but must certainly be in place for the scheme.

 

Yours did not.

It was my intention to bring a bit of humor into the thread by playing off of the "roll" as one was upon the stage of a drama presentation.

That such an intention was taken as an affront was in no way to be assigned as your fault.

Rather, it is solely mine in allowing opportunity for such to take place.

Your statement is most necessary to the discussion, and brought up a segment of the thinking that is not often considered.

For that I am most grateful!

 

Everyday for a real believer is a decision for Christ
Christ is our decision.....
on should I say this
should I read that
should I dress this way
should I drink this or not drink it

everyday Christ is our decision.

 

Ah yes!... The long suffering of God... Not willing that any should perish!... Brother Glen

 

When a person, even for the sake of comedy, attributes characteristics to the Bride of Christ such as dark and villainous I will take offence every time.

 

Who said that?... We better take that offender without the camp and ???... He who is without sin cast the first stone... Brother Glen

 

Really? I was hoping this board would be a great place to learn and allow for "iron to Sharpen iron." What I've found is a lot of elitism and spiritual immaturity masked with "knowledge."

No, thanks.

Carry on.

I'm out.

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Hank.....decisionism is what people react against.
Not the word ....but the teaching which is a denial of the biblical condition of man post fall. God speaks of people being made willing......

 

Hello Hank,

effectually drawn......

1thess1;
4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia.

8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.

it continues on into chapter 2:
10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:

11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children,

12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

OK Have no problem.

HankD

 

I totally agree, even every moment.

HankD

 

Have you learned how to "Walk in the Spirit" (Holy Spirit) like your Apostle [Paul] has instructed you?
As soon as you "decided" (ie: were "saved"), did you receive teaching/instruction on Spiritual Matters (evil spirits-spiritual warfare & the Holy Spirit)?
If not, it's most certain that you simply "reverted" back to your "Old Man" (ie: ego, self, flesh, puffed up, etc.) and will remain "clueless" until the rapture.
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I [Paul] write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
1 Corinthians 14:37-38