Featured Cain and God?

That is what I have tried to point out from the chapter of, the faith, eleven Hebrews. To faith or unto faith about 1 to 3 million people passed through the sea. A few days or weeks later they were wanting a golden calf made.

They did not pass through the sea because of something they believed about God but because God through them was going send his Son, the faith, into the world, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

 

By Faith Enoch was Translated, by Enoch's Faith He was Translated. It doesn't say Because of the Faith God gave to Enoch He was Translated. Cain was told by God do that which is right, that is believe and be saved, yet if God gives Faith wouldn't He have said to Cain, since I will not supply you with faith don't do that which is right because you can't I won't allow you too. That is what saying God gives Faith to some and not others has God saying. Yet we see Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

God told Cain to do that which was right and he would be accepted, yet if God supplies the Faith then God would have been lying to Cain for God would have to supply Faith for Cain to be accepted, He told Cain to do that which was right, that is place his faith in the Savior that was promised and offer the blood sacrifice. Can God lie, NO by no means.

 

yes, also of nations; since one is God who shall declare righteous the circumcision by (out of) faith, and the uncircumcision through the faith. YLT R3:29

Would you give me your thoughts relative to, out of faith, as compared to, through, the faith.

Is that wording, out of faith and through the faith, one of circumcision and the other of uncircumcision, relative to the wording in Gal 3 23,25 of before the faith came and after the coming of the faith. Also of note would be verse 14 YLT that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith.

 

1 Tim 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

Does that mean because he was without faith?
Did he all of a sudden generate, faith or did God translate Paul from unbelief unto belief, all of a suddenly?

 

The bolded, it mans God NEVER 'initiates the process' in those that perish, right?

 

He wills that all those who perish should perish?

'Elect' in this case being picking who to save?

 

Jesus came directly to Saul. Great light shown around Him, he went to his knees and heard the voice of Jesus. When he was told Jesus was speaking he said, notice Jesus didn't tell him what to do Sail asked but Jeaus go into the city. Paul had to choose to go, Ananias had to choose to go both had to use volition both had to make choices. Saul had to believe and faith came to him because He saw the light and believed it was Jesus.

 

Who are you referring to that have never heard the gospel? Tell who hasn't heard God is going to send a savior?

 

He would have remained blinded and God would have stopped the persecution by him.

 

I don't think he was physically born that way, perhaps John the Baptist was - being filled with the Holy Ghost from his mothers womb but then again I believe John the Baptist was an exception as it appears that he must have been born of the Spirit while in his mother's womb. It could be possible that the "elect" (those who will eventually believe) are predisposed to hearing and heading the gospel. I don't know for sure, there is no proof text (apart from the debatable "predestination" texts).

All of us being born dead in trespasses and sin seems to exclude that possibility yet predisposing could still be a definite possibility though a seeming contradiction. It was that way with me, though I was running/hiding from God before my new birth there was a definite yearning to be acceptable to Him. One or two of the prophets seems to claim a relationship with God from the womb but then again they also are special cases like John the Baptist.

No if you mean physical birth. Yes if you mean spiritual birth.
Good works are only "good" works if there has been a new birth or a circumcision of the heart.

Just as Cain's "good" work was good in his own eyes but was in reality it was evil and self gratifying. The object of Cains faith was himself that he was good in and of himself (unlike his father) therefore his sacrifice must be acceptable. He had the devil's face to face knowledge of God but was devoid of trusting faith in God whose Spirit was striving with him that he was indeed evil like his father Adam.

Later he proved that he was of the devil by murdering his brother.

No question about our faith as the scripture plainly declares that Jesus is the author and finisher (He wrote the owners manual) of our faith

In a sense our good works are our own good works for which we will be rewarded if we walk in the Spirit and allow Him to do good works through us and be His co-workers and don't grieve Him by habitually wandering off from His leading.

HankD

 

That is correct but you see because of His Foreknowledge about Saul, God knew the choice Saul would make. And Saul because of God's foreknowledge was elected and chosen to be the 12th Apostle who replaced Judas.

 

The Gospel has been preached to all mankind since the Fall. Adam told his children, Seth passed it on. Noah, Japheth, Shem and Ham passed it down to their children. When God scattered mankind and gave them languages many of each language passed the gospel down. So that even the tribes of native Indians had a belief in the Great Father who created the world and would send a savior, many believed that. Were those who accepted the Gospel of John the Baptist and hadn't heard of Jesus any less saved than those who had heard of Jesus. When they heard about Jesus they believed the story because they had believed John.