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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Agent47, Jan 23, 2017.

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  1. MennoSota

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    That's what rebels usually say.
     
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    Wouldn't be out of their control, would it? They'd be predestined for it.
     
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    Blame Adam and Eve.

    Easy fix is to cry out to God and beg for His mercy. Perhaps, he'll be gracious.

    The other option is to go on your way and die in your sin.
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    You wouldn't respond if it didn't provoke your spirit.
     
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    I respond because I find it amusing.
     
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    Again, this is what I expect to hear from rebels.
     
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    I prefer rebel scum. It sounds more like Star Wars and has that nice Darth Vader ring to it.
     
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    Enjoy it while you can.
     
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    Once a totally depraved infant baby, violently forcefully grabbed my finger and then rebelliously began gnawing at it with his toothless mouth, that evil baby!

    It was so cute it didn't matter how evil he was. I got some good 40 years on those infants. What do you suppose is the comparison to God in proportion? The distance of ignorance this baby has to me is nothing compared to our distance in ignorance to God. God showing all mercy is an easy thing. You have a better chance of slapping a infant on account of its insisting rebellion and domination of others.


    Point being EVERY single act of evil, every sin, is stupid by nature and immature.

    There is no sin out there not caused by fear, not caused by ignorance, not caused by a mistrust of God.

    They call the devil accuser for a reason. Every sin at its core has an accusation that God cannot be trusted.


    Concerning God being the author of sin. Maybe even the author of ignorance. If I wanted to hold any of you accountable for sin committed according to God I would have to turn my vengeance or sense of justice against Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is absolutely and completely responsible for all sins.

    He is paying up for your sins. All actual responsibility falls on him. God didn't just label him or fake him responsible. The fault, the blame, the responsibility is on Jesus Christ.

    In terms of making others suffer for their making me suffer, there is nothing that can top making Jesus Christ suffer.

    A hypocrite might not get this, I know my faith isn't this high, suppose a person love Jesus more then anything else, Jesus was most precious to them more then anything else. Then there is nothing that can top making that person suffer then knowing Jesus suffered.

    Technically any bad new or pain, shouldn't hold a candle next to Jesus who suffered. Its like if your drowning in water, your not going to complain if its raining. Or if a loved one dies you might not really care that the cable went out.

    I know parents who will wince in pain even cry when their little girl gets a needle shot from a doctor.

    I know Jesus is risen. I know Jesus is God. But if he's anything human I know behind that crown there we someone innocent back there completely friendly they did not deserve to be hurt in any way.

    If you were in the presence of something 100% pure evil, it would absolutely be terrified of you.

    God treasures the opportunity to help the most evil of all in not being evil.

    Jesus teaches if you only love those who love you back that's worthless, love your enemies.

    Those are attributes of God the Father's perfection.
     
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    Are you going for something like this? (Couldn't resist the Star Wars reference!)

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    No Lack of faith is not disturbing. Lack of faith is natural and to be expected. In fact, having faith is only possible by God's grace and favor.

    No, your response is to be expected as a norm.
     
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    The default unless you win the arbitrary salvation lottery, apparently.
     
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    God roasts none in Hell , as all sinners have decided to go thre by rejecting Chrsit!
     
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    God has every right to judge all sinners, so that any of us are saved is marvoulous Grace!
     
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    Their final destiny was predetermined by God, but they still chose to reject Christ, God did not cause them to do that!
     
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