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Again that's fine with me - let's just get on with it!

HankD

 

As a relative statement, yes.

However somehow we must keep the politicos (All of them) from stealing from the Social Security fund (which apparently doesn't exist anymore) but the money goes in the front door and right out the back with T-Bills (IOU's) in the closets to maintain"technical honesty".

Now if the swamp is drained (both the left and right sides) and the "good ole boys" are sent packing and term limits are imposed and lobbyists are eliminated we might be on the way to sanity on the hill.

I realize some permanent high official vocations must be maintained to keep our great traditions and necessary order intact. Not an issue without an answer.

My opinion of course.

HankD

 

And it won't.

 

One thing I noticed when reading the bill. Yes, it gets rid of almost all of the ObamaCare taxes (medical device tax, surcharge for Medicare on wealthy people, tanning tax, over-the-counter drug tax, etc.) but not until January 2018. Why, oh why, can't we have those taxes IMMEDIATELY ended upon signing into law? Are these Republicans really tax-cutters?

 

Don't forget who the Speaker is.

 

If we conservatives complained about the ObamaCare mandate as being unconstitutional, that is, a law forcing individuals to buy a product or be taxed, what are we to make of a law that forces individuals to pay more for a product as a penalty for not buying the product? Sheesh, this thing seems unconstitutional to me.

 

I see nothing in the bill allowing for selling insurance policies across state lines. Nothing.

If you all remember, that was the key component (really the only component) in Trump's explanations of his health care plan during the campaign.

 

I suppose. We don't get Medicaid reform until 2020. In other words, kick the can down the road to another presidential election year. Make it a campaign issue.

 

Like that it repeal manditory insurance needed, also all govt mandates, like credits and savings topay for it, REALLY like that Planned parenthood defunded in it!

 

Like it or not, all health plan proposals are doomed without some type of mandate. It can never survive long term without young healthy people in the program.

For decades, employers have been forced by insurance companies to purchase insurance on all their employees, whether they needed it or not. If they wouldn't no insurance company would set up a program.

A national health insurance program is no different. A program that covers only the sick will fail, or rapidly become unaffordable, sooner rather than later.

 

It will have to be in the finished product or Trump won't sign it.

 

Trump weighing in on the healthcare bill via Twitter. Looks like he likes it as a first step and is well aware of the state lines issue. Seems to always be in touch with the people. And without breaking stride, snuck in a jab at Obama. You gotta love this guy.

1. Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago
   Don't let the FAKE NEWS tell you that there is big infighting in the Trump Admin. We are getting along great, and getting major things done!
   
   22,161 replies15,073 retweets66,098 likes
   
2. 
   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
   I am working on a new system where there will be competition in the Drug Industry. Pricing for the American people will come way down!
   
   11,285 replies14,417 retweets68,722 likes
   
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   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
   Don't worry, getting rid of state lines, which will promote competition, will be in phase 2 & 3 of healthcare rollout. @foxandfriends
   
   7,601 replies10,505 retweets48,115 likes
   
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   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
   For eight years Russia "ran over" President Obama, got stronger and stronger, picked-off Crimea and added missiles. Weak! @foxandfriends
   
   14,781 replies11,550 retweets48,468 likes
   
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   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago
   Our wonderful new Healthcare Bill is now out for review and negotiation. ObamaCare is a complete and total disaster - is imploding fast!
   
   17,778 replies11,269 retweets54,669 likes

 

That's what we all thought before. But if they call it a tax, it's legal. So sayeth John Roberts.

 

Thibnk that is what people must understand, as this is the initial plan, and the House/Senate will hammer out the Final bill for Trump to sign!

 

True. So it's puzzling that the GOP dropped the mandate but kept the ObamaCare provision that children can be covered up to age 26.

By allowing children to be on their parents plans until aged 26 and dropping the mandate they lose young healthy people that would be paying into the program under their own policy. Under the GOP plan the older the parents, the bigger the family, the greater the tax credits paid. So they are losing on both ends of this "feature".

 

Yes, but this isn't being called a tax. It's being called a penalty. It's a mandated penalty that you must pay to a private company because you didn't buy another private company's product. Insane.

 

Roberts can chage what it's called, just like he did before. I don't know if who it is paid to will matter. But, if it does the penalty could go into an extra risk pool instead of to a company.

 

Exactly. We have a smart man at the helm now. This isn't Obama or even Bush anymore. There will be phases. There will be smart moves. Everyone needs to chill.

 

OK I'm willing, I'll get my sweater.

HankD

 

Good start toi it, as both sides seem to hate it, so now we can get down to what will be the best plan for Americans, as Hopefully Trump has same view Reagan did, as he always stated better to leave with 80 % of what I fully wanted to have, then to end wup with zero, and riding off my high horse off the cliff!