Again, i'm still waiting on you to tell me what the terms of the new one are.
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7th Day Sabbath
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This is a convenient ploy. Every time you find a mitzvah you don't want to keep "OH it's a commandment invented by man".
How convenient.!
HankD
Ok condescending Hank, will you please show me where in the torah that washing hands is commanded?
So go ahead and tell me the context.
Jason, you are doing a cut and paste with God's word in order to create your own gospel.
No one is failing to grasp what you are doing. On the contrary, people are warning you of the eternal danger and peril in which you find yourself.
You're right. How dare I saw we must obey the Father. SHAME ON ME
Nope, that's not the problem. You can't see what you can't see, Jason. Even when I communicate with you, I leave you in the capable hands of God, Yeshua. I pray your spirit is one day made alive in Christ. Until then what I say will be foolishness to you.
Exactly!
I guess the good news means you don't have to obey now.... very sad
Nope, that's not the problem. You can't see what you can't see, Jason. Even when I communicate with you, I leave you in the capable hands of God, Yeshua. I pray your spirit is one day made alive in Christ. Until then what I say will be foolishness to you.
Exodus 30:19 For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat:
Exodus 30:21 So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.
Deuteronomy 21:6 And all the elders of that city, that are next unto the slain man, shall wash their hands over the heifer that is beheaded in the valley:
HankD
Yes, the good news means that I do not have to obey any of those other 613 commands. The women in my family are not stopped from doing anything during their time of the month and we all worship together. You're not violating any of those stipulations are you?
Those are not talking about washing your hands before you eat. You know this...
None of the 613? Lets make a small list:
Do you: murder, steal, covet, commit adultery, worship idols, consult mediums, practice witchcraft, commit incest, do gay acts, marry your wife's sister, speak on the authority of other deities, break your vows, etc? I think you've admitted to eating unclean animals and breaking the sabbath already. What other sins do you openly commit?
Those are of the 10 which I certainly try not to fall afoul of. There is no prohibition against eating anything that roams the earth and Jesus Himself did what was considered a "work" on the Sabbath. Nice try, but I'm still not buying.
You on the other hand must abide by all of the old law since you embrace it. You are trying to have things both ways. Do you have a beard and hair that comes down the sides? Prayer shawl and little boxes on your forearms?
Hopefully you are eating completely kosher too - can't have any traces of blood in your poultry or beef you know. Been to a McDonalds or Wendy's lately? That would be a big no, no for you. Surely you are not going about following the old law business with half measures, because if you do you are in violation.
Wait, did you say you stick to the 10 commandments? What happened to the 7th day sabbath?
I would correct your understanding about the points you made, but I don't think you really care...
YES it is, the hands are easily contaminated with uncleanliness (Traif). Kasher food to be eaten cannot be touched with traif hands or it is no longer kosher! You SHOULD know this...
If you pet a dog or cat your hands are unclean and everything they touch becomes unclean.
Like I said this is one mitzvah you don't want to keep so you make excuses like the Gentiles.
HankD
Jason we don't HAVE to do these things because we don't want to do them.
There are certain folk who have not the Spirit which indeed need the commandments because they have unbridled lust and are like horses who need a bit in their mouth to constrain them.
1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
HankD
I try to keep the Son's day holy, that day decided upon by the first Christians as our day of observance. I attend Mass when I can, but also work on it to take care of my family - Jesus understands this completely.
Now, about keeping kosher. You know that eating those things that the old law says you can eat must be adhered to, but the food itself also has to be prepared correctly. You just cannot eat any ordinary chicken or piece of beef you buy from the grocery store or from a restaurant. It has to be slaughtered and prepared in the proper manner, otherwise the food is as unclean as the one's that are prohibited. So if you eat at Micky D's, or buy your meat and poultry like I do from the local Publix, Shop Rite, or Kroger's, you are sinning and for your sake I pray that is not the case.
You're defining kosher according to man's standards. None of that is in scripture.
What scripture says is that eating the meats in Lev 11 is an abomination to you and not to eat them so you can be set apart. Touching unclean things like a dead animal or bug doesn't make the food unclean, it makes you unclean and not fit to go to the tabernacle that day. It is time to take a bath (no tabernacle/temple today so we can only really talk about principles in this last area).. This is a good teaching tool to show us that we need to be in a state of cleanliness (body, heart, mind) when approaching the Father (thats my midrash).
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