God controls quite a lot or God controls all?

God’s omniscience GOD IS OMNISCIENT. HE KNOWS EVERYTHING: EVERYTHING possible, everything actual; all events and all creatures, of the past, the present, and the future. He is perfectly acquainted with every detail in the life of every being in heaven, in earth, and in hell.

“He knoweth what is in the darkness” (Dan 2:22). Nothing escapes His notice, nothing can be hidden from Him, nothing is forgotten by Him. Well may we say with the Psalmist, “Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it” (Psa 139:6). His knowledge is perfect. He never errs, never changes, never overlooks anything


. “Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do” (Heb 4:13). Yes, such is the God “with whom we have to do”! “Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, Thou understandest my thought afar off. Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, Thou knowest it altogether” (Psa 139:2-4). What a wondrous Being is the God of Scripture! Each of His glorious attributes should render Him honorable in our esteem. The apprehension of His omniscience ought to bow us in adoration before Him. Yet how little do we meditate upon this divine perfection! Is it because the very thought of it fills us with uneasiness? How solemn is this fact: nothing can be concealed from God! “For I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them” (Eze 11:5). Though He be invisible to us, we are not so to Him.

 

Your habit of putting words in people's mouths is dispicable.

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.

 

Past and future “Great is our Lord, and of great power: His understanding is infinite” (Psa 147:5). God not only knows whatsoever has happened in the past in every part of His vast domains, and He is not only thoroughly acquainted with everything that is now transpiring throughout the entire universe, but He is also perfectly cognizant of every event, from the least to the greatest, that ever will happen in the ages to come

. God’s knowledge of the future is as complete as is His knowledge of the past and the present, and that, because the future depends entirely upon Himself. Were it in anywise possible for something to occur apart from either the direct agency or permission of God, then that something would be independent of Him, and He would at once cease to be Supreme.

Now the divine knowledge of the future is not a mere abstraction, but something which is inseparably connected with and accompanied by His purpose. God has Himself designed whatsoever shall yet be, and what He has designed must be effectuated. As His most sure Word affirms, “He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand” (Dan 4:35). And again, “There are many devices in a man’s heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand” (Pro 19:21). The wisdom and power of God being alike infinite, the accomplishment of whatever He hath purposed is absolutely guaranteed. It is no more possible for the divine counsels to fail in their execution than it would be for the thrice holy God to lie. Nothing relating to the future is in anywise uncertain so far as the actualization of God’s counsels are concerned. None of His decrees are left contingent either on creatures or secondary causes. There is no future event which is only a mere possibility, that is, something which may or may not come to pass: “Known unto God are all His works from the beginning” (Acts 15:18). Whatever God has decreed is inexorably certain, for He is without variableness, or shadow of turning (James 1:17). Therefore we are told at the very beginning of that book, which unveils to us so much of the future, of “Things which must shortly come to pass” (Rev 1:1)

 

This from Pink's "The Attributes of God", iirc.

I just read that excerpt tonight on my Nook ebook.

 

John 15

15“No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.


One good give away one is not elect, they don't know who the elect are. They don't know God's motive, intention, they don't know what God is doing.

 

Yes after reading several bad posts about disparaging God's attributes I have to go to a good source once in awhile and refresh myself.

 

You again have ignored the context of scripture. God created gravity, it directs those branches to the ground. That would be His natural law at work. On occasion, He may impose super natural intervention.

I know. I know. I am now a deist.

 

What would be outiside the control of God? The only way to get to that would be to have say an Open Theist God, who limited Himself, but that is not the God of the Bible!

 

"Open Theist", now there's a new one on me.

"Open Theism is the thesis that, because God loves us and desires that we freely choose to reciprocate His love, He has made His knowledge of, and plans for, the future conditional upon our actions. Though omniscient, God does not know what we will freely do in the future." Open Theism | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

Sorry, that one doesn't fit me either. I believe the God of the Bible knows the beginning to the ending because He is the "Alpha and Omega", the "I Am", and He "inhabiteth eternity" the Bible says. He knows who will believe but He forces no one. He isn't limited either: He just doesn't do things He chooses not to do. Simple huh?

 

Do you believe that God controls what you will have for lunch today? Tomorrow? Next week? A year from now?

When you pass gas on October 18, 2029, will that be of God's perfect purpose?

 

So God is ordaining that you have a hamburger and fries on September 23, 2022?

 

So basically, whatever happens in this world, no matter what, is ordained by God.

I pour a glass of Coca Cola and 487 bubbles form and rise to the surface. Not 486. Not 488. But precisely 487 bubbles, as God ordained for his glory.

Is this what you believe?

 

If it happens, if it comes to pass,it was ordained to come to pass

 

so, according to that logic, if a serial killer decides to do his thing this aftenoon, it was ordained by God?

 

Could God had stopped him at any time? Yes, but why did he allow him to do that sinful act, is that the question?