eschatology continued

By the simple fact that no one but GOD could either accurately predict his coming, or hold him back.

 

The "quickly' here means 'rapidly', fast-moving', not "in a short time", at least from man's pointa view.

That's obvious from the fact those events haven't yet occurred.

 

My conclusions have come from closely reading Scripture and long study of history. History nis shaped by Scripture, not vice versa.

The simple truth is, the prophesied eschatological events have NOT yet occurred. The coming of the 'beast' to power will be the beginning of those events, when the "buds will appear on the fig trees". Then, those events will occur within a short time of each other.

 

While Jesus is SPIRITUALLY present wherever/whenever two or more are gathered in His name (Matt. 18:20), He has NOT yet physically returned. His return will be a stupendous, glorious event, SEEN BY ALL, as He said.

But YOU say he's already returned? OK, what army did He destroy at His return? The Roman army that sacked J returned to Rome in triumph. What great ruler did He cast alive into gehenna?

HUH?

 

I'm a professional chemist so I know exactly what elements are....
Until I read the Scriptural usage.

And is Peter referring to the earth or the land (of Israel) ? Same word in Greek.

I think in the context, the physical earth at final coming at the end of the present Gospel age/millennium.

But also he is answering the scoffers who are challenging Jesus' prophesied coming to destroy the city & the sanctuary - the central elements of the Old Covenant. Noah warned about the flood - & it happened; Jesus warned about the destruction in his Olivet prophecy - it would happen soon, in the lifetime of those who rejected him. Jesus also warned about the passing of heaven & earth - that will happen at an unknown time - a thousand years or a day after the rebellion, etc prophesied in 2T2. Back to 2T1.

-----
I think the "he" is James, who continued his witness in Jerusalem as the leader of the church there in the power of the Holy Spirit until he was martyred by the "powers of lawlessness". Just as Sodom continued until Lot was taken out of the way, so Jerusalem continued until the church was taken out of the way.

 

I know Paul made followup visits wherever he preached the Gospel but where do you find in Scripture his future second coming???!!!???

 

What you don't enjoy is doing your own research, apparently. In the PM I gave you sources where you could prove (or disprove, I suppose) what I said. And again, what I said has been proven over and over, so I saw no need to prove a commonly accepted fact.

I have no idea what you are talking about. What 118 and 119? What other topic?

Your problem is a typical Millennial problem: you jump from subject to subject so fast you never solve any of them. Please, by all means, develop some mental and spiritual discipline.

 

...lol, you might get lucky like me and he'll just put you on ignore!

 

Okay, folks, I finally figured out what he is talking about here. He means the thread "Partial Preterism and Futurism," and Posts 118 and 119 are on p. 6 of that thread.

Frankly, I usually ignore such long lists of verses with no explanation--it's a pet peeve. Such lists almost always have errors of exegesis, and since they are not explained, you can't discuss them with the maker of the list.

This list is no different. None of the entries have any comments. Someone just made up their list with no apparent interaction with the side he is criticizing--the premil position. So, for example, "The Kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matt. 3:2) is listed as a time statement for the 2nd Coming. Really? Someone on the preterist side actually thinks that the premil position takes that as referring to the 2nd Coming? That's just plain ignorant.

Here's another: "Maranatha" in I Cor. 16:22. Really? Another time statement? Absolutely careless. May the Lord deliver us from such careless, thoughtless, discussions.

To prophecy70: You really need to up your game. I truly believe that the posters on the BB have higher standards of accuracy and interpretation than the other Bible discussion boards out there. At this point, you are not impressing BB denizens.

 

I'm used to my students actually listening and then working things out themselves.

Sorry, but there is no comparison between a saved person debating prophecy with me on an Internet board, and a lost person asking me "Why?" I have given the Gospel and answered the questions of lost people countless times in the US, Japan, Africa, a Muslim country in the Far East, and other places. My life is built around the Great Commission. So don't point to any irritation I have with your posts as being somehow equivalent to a lost person coming to me seeking salvation. That's a total non sequitor.

 

The simple truth is they HAVE happened .

29 ¶ And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

 

Generation can mean race, so the Jewish people will still be here on earth when he comes back!
or that the generation alive in history at that time in the future shall the second coming event!

 

A typical futurist ploy to avoid the obvious.

 

Well, both options are just as viable as yours, per the scriptures!