Continuing the eschatology

I don’t regularly visit other boards. This one satisfies what need I have to express my views, and there are good scholars on this board that I trust will with kind sincerity redirect me, especially as I grow weaker in languages and may post in error.

Therefore, I am unknowing of any list.

Many people such as Newton and Edwards used what we would term dispensations as a tool to divide the Scriptures. Personally, I would think that even the ancient scrolls reflected that thinking because they are referred to as the Law (Torah) and the prophets. Two separate groupings from different eras.

There may be good research that would document folks like John Newton and Jonathan Edwards held premillennialism views. What I have read of both would certainly show that they embraced a future millennium in which believers ruled with Christ.

I haven’t read (that I immediately recall) either of them remarking about a rapture or believers escaping the tribulation. But I could be mistaken.

 

But it did. It was "on that generation." I am sorry you just do not understand either Bible teaching or its relation to History.

You just cling to the Jesuit futurist teaching and bend your facts to fit.

 

The reason why I don't usually respond to you, Robycop, is that your answer is basically always the same: You act as if the lack of physical phenomena disproves my position. These events you cite are not as you describe them. Consider the (supposed) cosmic events that Peter describes in Acts 2. He spoke of them as having already happened.

 

The verse says people are going to see Him. Nobody saw Him in AD 70.
Also, don't take just one verse; take it in conjunction with another. Acts 1:11 says He will come physically.

 

I had to smile at this post

This is not criticism, but more often when folks reflect upon the early church there is a sense that they were automatically responsive and obedient to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

Friends, you got to know, they were no better than the modern church. Few took and do take the Scriptures as valid in every aspect of their life.

If they did, the typical church of both our and their day would be most uncharacteristic of what is seen in the letters of the Apostles, and what is witnessed, today.

 

Don't be upset, just do as others do start another one... This conversation is far from dead... You just have to know how to play the game... Brother Glen

 

Yes but the command was to flee when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies. (The abomination of Desolation)

The Jews attacked and defeated Cestius, and it was certain that the Romans wouldn't take that kindly. At that time the Germans had revolted and there were revolts all over the Roman world, so much so that Nero considered suicide, There were many wars and rumours or wars, but Vespasian put down the Germans and Nero brought him back to take over the Judean campaign. And the rest is history, as they say.

After Vespasian arrived then Jerusalem was shut up. As this was at the time of the Passover, the population was inflated by visitors for the feast.

 

I have finished reading it now Bro.

 

I have said a number of times that Futurism is a product of the Jesuits.

 

I used to be on a site called Trail of Blood. They recommended a publication by that name.If you read it, they consider the Montanists to be true Baptists, but they had a number of strange teachings including origination the theory of two types of sins, later taught by the RCC.
They also latterly taught that Marriage is wrong.

 

I’m certain that when Peter spoke, it was to people who new exactly the context of the statements.

The only objective Peter had was establishing exactly who he was exalting.

There were then, more than one person who proclaimed to be the messiah. The typical Jews looked for such a one who would release them from the Romans.

Peters message was not “Look at the prophets as fulfilled,” rather “See, this same person the prophets said was coming, you crucified....”


The message was to identify just who was the messiah as distinguished from all other pretenders.

 

One thing for certain-- The events of AD 70 did not come like a thief in the night (Matthew 24:43; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; Revelation 15:16 etc).

 

A thief doesn't show up several months before the event.